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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 20, 2014 10:46:29 GMT -5
Oh, I would agree. Even a small pack makes it hard to reach that far without twisting the upper body.
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 20, 2014 11:02:19 GMT -5
Oh, I would agree. Even a small pack makes it hard to reach that far without twisting the upper body. I'm trying to work out what NEEDS to be where, for what I want to do, and what I can either A) ditch or B) move back a 'line' or two. Dump pouches are good, but they're relatively new to my way of thinking and use - it' still more natural for me to throw them down a jacket than it is to chuck them in a pouch. Obviously it'd depend on what you're expecting to wear etc, but... again, THINKING. I've got a lot of time to think, and I don't want to have to buy 2-3 times to find out what works for me.
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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 20, 2014 16:12:00 GMT -5
For me it doubles as a water bottle carrier most of the time (probably not a good habit), very nice for picking up brass after practice also. I hear ya on working it all out. There is not shortcut but to put it together and go run some training drills and see what gets in the way. I've redone my stuff several times this year and just finished this chest rig today to replace my old ITS Howe Universal rig that I tore up experimenting. I'm liking the buckle front very much. I can not shoot mag prone in this rig (just a hair to high) even though it's only one mag thick on the front, but unsnap the front and wala! Mag prone in a jiffy!. It's a TT Split MAV ($15.00 surplus find), two surplus Eagle double pouches and two saw pouches all off Amazon. I have $65.00 into my "Currahee Clone" and I'm really liking it so far.
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 20, 2014 16:31:48 GMT -5
Good for brass, definitely (Sandbags! Good to carry for practise for brass, but also nice if you're ever out and you want to add a bit of height, or depth, to somewhere, and all you have to hand is earth/sand!). I totally agree that you have to test and adjust - But there is test and adjust and then there is 'buy this because shiny... oh sh*t it's of no use'. I've already discounted putting it at 6 o' clock. Now I can consider dropping it as a 'sub-load' of sorts, or rearranging other gear around it. No experimentation necessary, because I've already made the decision it's not going to work I -WANT- to like chest rigs. I really do. I just can't get my head into them. Perhaps as a way of carrying extra ammo, but then when I think of that I see the UWG Bando, and that's a much better fit for my needs. I am a massive proponent of belt kit. Mostly thats because we're used to operating without vehicles, and we don't often come across the problem of vehicles. I keep looking at chest rigs, setting one up mentally, and then noping right out of it. Belt kit is my thing, I just need to tailor it from British 'regular' SOP to MINE. 2/3 of my issue is the CLOTHING I'm used to wearing... is designed for a cold wet place. My future AO is either cold/dry (winter) or wet/hot (summer). And nothing I've seen so far allows me to carry what I want to carry ON MY PERSON (See the thread about what I carry in my jacket. This works equally well with/without belt kit, but is horrible with chest rigs...) Obviously, YMMV, but I have to try and explain my psychology, thoughtology, and perhaps a little bit of my own personal crazy!
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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 20, 2014 16:46:22 GMT -5
I think the traditional 782 approach and chest rigs have their place and work well depending on your mission. For long patrols that I'd be living off my kit for a week, I'd want the 782 setup like you Brits favor.
My CH supplements my belt kit which is my "light" setup. It can also run on its own as an ultra light (no pistol) setup for patrolling the property. Currahee's setup and my own are along the same lines with this and we both trade out the CH for a PC to supplement the belt if going "heavy" or static. Whatever works for you is what's important.
If I was in cold territory, I would be running a loaded smock for sure as a base layer and a 782 style belt setup. In 100F+ it sucks though. Our Summers are over 100+ and Winters rarely below -10F with an average of 40F .
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 20, 2014 16:48:47 GMT -5
usmc0331: Care to put those temperatures into real money? Also; 782?
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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 20, 2014 17:24:21 GMT -5
If you mean did I look them up? No. I know we have been having weeks of 99-100+ for the past few years but I'm guessing on the cold.
782 is ALICE belt gear, that's what I wore and what we called it in the Corps
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 20, 2014 17:35:38 GMT -5
I meant can you convert from farenheit to celsius I was winding you up, farenheit is... hard work, and old I must admit I cling to my miles when I drive, and for PT. But when I navigate I am very specifically a metric human. I have seen/worn ALICE belt gear. It seems halfway between 58 pattern (HORRIBLE) gear, and the newer PLCE (Which is... Good, but the newer MOLLE stuff is, for the most part, a lot better.) Our utility/water bottle pouches are very similar in size to your SAW pouches, but shaped to fit mess tins/ 58 pattern mug. Now they exist in MOLLE form I shall definitely be using them for belt gear, but I do need to see if I can find a belt that is taller (3 rows, rather than 2 of MOLLE).
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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 20, 2014 18:00:19 GMT -5
America doesn't do Metric, the world conforms to us. LOL look where that attitude has gotten us. Now I have to have two sets of tools to work on my "American" Ford truck.
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Post by currahee on Sept 22, 2014 20:59:03 GMT -5
My new favorite range pic
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Post by USMC0331 on Sept 22, 2014 21:24:38 GMT -5
Wish I had one of those Currahee UW rigs. I'm telling ya Diz, your missing out on a winner with that setup!
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 23, 2014 9:58:18 GMT -5
We're workin on some things....
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Post by kenny256 on Oct 15, 2014 10:18:09 GMT -5
I am almost finished with my belt set up, I need a dump pouch, and a holster set up for my vtac brokos belt...
What are you guys using? I need a good way of attaching the holster to the molle....
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Post by johnlangdon on Oct 15, 2014 15:46:26 GMT -5
Here's my battle belt. Still deciding on a chest rig Battle Belt - ATS War Belt Suspenders - Tactical Tailor Fight Lite Suspenders Inner Belt - Blackhawk 2.25" web belt - this will likely change to a standard roll-pin style belt From L to R: 1) 2 HSGI Double Taco pouches - holds 4 mags 2) 1 HSGI Double Rifle Mag Pouch, Modular- holds six mags 3) 1 Grey Ghost Gear Dump Pouch 4) 1 USGI Canteen Pouch w/ Nalgene Canteen 5) 1 USGI 100rd SAW pouch 6) 1 Condor EMT Lite, Rip-away medical pouch 7) 1 G-Code OSH RTI Holster - I have a drop mount too 8) 1 Condor Double pistol mag pouch 1-2) The reason I chose the HSGI Taco pouches is mainly for the ability to use other rifles. I have an AK and AR 10 (takes FAL mags) that I could use and instead of switching configurations, I can throw at least 4 mags on my battle belt and be ready to go. It just gives me some flexibility. Not necessarily ideal as far as keeping mags clean, but they'll work. The modular HSGI rifle mag pouch works great. I can carry up to 10 mags on my belt should I choose. I can also use one of the sections as a place for my gloves and a radio if I wanted to lose a little belt weight. They are flapped pouches with buckle closures as well as velcro with silencer strips (should I not want to use the velcro). 3) I like my GGG dump pouch - I'm getting used to having one on the belt again. It's compact and takes minimal belt space. This would be the first item to go should I need to place something else on the belt. 4) Pretty self explanatory. This will get a light coat of Rustoleum paint. 5) This SAW pouch contains some Clif Bars, MRE peanut butter, 3-4 hard candies from MREs, Datrex emergency rations, extra batteries, boresnake, and a SOG multi-tool. All of this is stored in Ziploc bags to keep it waterproof. This has been painted with some Rustoleum. 6) Yes, its Condor brand. It was cheap and it works. This pouch contains an Israeli Bandage, QuickClot gauze/sponge, couple of other little items and a tourniquet on the outside 7) Love this holster. Get one. I have the MOLLE belt adapter as well as the drop mount. The drop mount utilizes a inner belt attachment and places the holster attachment at the bottom of the battle belt. Think of it as a drop leg rig in the correct spot (high and tight on the leg) without it actually being attached to the leg via straps and panels. This picture shows the holster mounted on the MOLLE itself. If you can, imagine the holster about 3-4 inches lower and that would be the location if using the drop mount. 8) Just a basic Chi-com double mag pouch. Here are some more pictures:
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Post by Diz on Jan 19, 2015 11:12:41 GMT -5
Here's my current load out. Prototype 4-mag zip front chest rig, with bleeder and utility pouches. Modified Molle II Assault pack, with beaver tail helmet cave and 2-mag pouches.
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