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Post by omnivorous on Nov 17, 2014 10:36:25 GMT -5
...mid-length gas... He likes to keep the parts as simple and stock as possible. These two are opposing concepts. There is no reason to move away from a STANDARD carbine gas system other than tricking out your rifle. I'd rather have a non-standard trigger that can be changed out to a standard trigger, than a mid-length that will be impossible to replace a gas tube on from BFP rifles. I can always cut a tube down from Full/Mid rifles, he can't grow a standard carbine GT to fit his. The mid-lengths cycle more reliably with a 16" barrel, as far as I can determine from the amount of reviews I've read about them. If things have gotten to the point to were one is having to cannibalize other rifles to keep one's own up and running, then one could likely just grab another which is in better shape, and stash the others.
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Post by USMC0331 on Nov 17, 2014 10:42:14 GMT -5
It's the same as putting a Geissle trigger in the gun and your post illustrates my point exactly, thank you!
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Post by omnivorous on Nov 17, 2014 15:21:26 GMT -5
It's the same as putting a Geissle trigger in the gun and your post illustrates my point exactly, thank you! I don't know anything about drop-in triggers for ARs, so I'm genuinely confused here. None of my usual sarcasm, I'm honestly just missing what you're saying.
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Post by USMC0331 on Nov 17, 2014 18:20:00 GMT -5
I'm just saying "non-standard" is non-standard. And is not a big deal.
He made to point of keeping things standard and simple and then tells us he's using a non-standard gas system. Just saying...
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Post by UnforseenWeather on Nov 17, 2014 18:36:11 GMT -5
Push two pins out, drop new upper on... profit. Let's not overthink this!
Seriously though, "Standard" doesn't mean we all have to succumb to pedantry. A 16" bbl and gas system (or some other variation) isn't likely to cause major issue, is it?
(This isn't a bad discussion at all, just thinking maybe it's time for a separate thread so we can keep this focused on the discussion of Mosby's book...)
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Post by USMC0331 on Nov 17, 2014 20:27:08 GMT -5
Hey, it's my thread. j/k I'll let it slide since you made me learn a new word though.
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Post by omnivorous on Nov 17, 2014 23:36:23 GMT -5
Ok, I get you now, USMC0331. How is a carbine length gas system coupled with a 16" barrel standard, then...?
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 19, 2014 10:24:07 GMT -5
I'm just saying "non-standard" is non-standard. And is not a big deal. He made to point of keeping things standard and simple and then tells us he's using a non-standard gas system. Just saying... You like to nit-pick just for the sake of nit-picking and argument don't you.
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Post by USMC0331 on Nov 19, 2014 11:16:09 GMT -5
No I like to be accurate.
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 19, 2014 11:48:49 GMT -5
OK, enough is enough. Why are you here? You disagree with the majority of what we espouse here, be it tactics, weapons, gear etc.. So I want to know, why you choose to be here, in a place that is far more opposite than you.
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Post by Diz on Nov 19, 2014 11:50:07 GMT -5
Guys this is really nit-picking the fly shit.
We can argue the merits of this back and forth, but that's not the point.
I'm really getting tired of guys constantly going back to defend their ways of doing things, especially when they find some supposed inconsistency in someone else's argument.
This is not a debating society. I'm not on here to pick a fight with anyone else. In fact I'm getting real sick and tired of moderating a lot of this bullshit.
I can now understand why a lot of these forums get so autocratic because they get sick and tired of all these guys sharpshooting every little thing you say.
I'm gonna say this once more. There are many ways to do things. We bring up "a" way of doing something. It's not the only way. But it is "a" way for you to consider, and for us to discuss. If you have different views, that's fine. You can state as much. And we can all consider them. But don't bring stuff up just for the sake of argument. Don't keep re-visiting a point and hammering at it, just because it happens to be your pet subject.
I'm not saying you have to agree with everything we say. I'm not saying we want bunch of "yes-men" that just rubber stamp everything we say. BUT, SOME agreement would be nice. I actually wonder why some folks even come here at all. If you disagree with just about everything we say, then why come here at all? If you don't run a chest rig, why come on to a guy's website and say that? If you don't believe in at least TRYING to reload with retention, why hang out with guys that do? If you don't like the way they set up their rifles, again why be here? I mean it's one thing to discuss some differences, but some common ground would be nice too. Otherwise, it just looks like some folks just like to bust balls and argue. It's like I don't go to a 3-gun match website and tell all those guys their full of shit, because they're doing their thing, and I'm doing mine.
I hate to be a prick but I guess I'm gonna start. If I keep seeing a bunch of this shit, I'm gonna start dropping the hammer.
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Post by USMC0331 on Nov 19, 2014 12:02:48 GMT -5
Why am I here? To learn and share but when t goes against you personal opinion you attack me Hawk, so I'll spare you the grief I obviously cause your world by questioning it and leave you I your forum.
Last post, delete the account if you like.
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 19, 2014 12:07:38 GMT -5
Me attack you? Oh that's the funniest thing I've read in days. I've let you post at will here since day one, even when it went directly against everything we advocate. So you can spare me that BS. If I wanted you gone, you'd have been gone a long time ago. Yet, your still here. Even when your contrary to everything and quite frankly have an attitude that I don't care for. Why do you think that is? Why is it that your not banned here, unlike pretty much every other similar forum out there (by your own admission)....?
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Post by Diz on Nov 19, 2014 12:28:46 GMT -5
OK guys that is all that needs to be said.
I don't think we are ever gonna find common ground here.
So this shit's over.
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Post by UnforseenWeather on Nov 19, 2014 12:35:51 GMT -5
Why am I here? To learn and share but when t goes against you personal opinion you attack me Hawk, so I'll spare you the grief I obviously cause your world by questioning it and leave you I your forum. Last post, delete the account if you like. I'm assuming you'll read this. The site says you're still online. Nobody is attacking you. We welcome "other" viewpoints. One of my favorite posters here is British, with an entirely different way of looking at things than us Yanks have. You, on the other hand, seem to have a bit of a complex about your viewpoint being taken seriously, but I'm not a psychiatrist and have no interest in being one. You aren't causing grief, per se. You are simply being a contrarian at times for the sake of being one, and there is a difference. Understand, (and this is also for anyone reading this post) this site was created with the idea that nobody's way of doing things should be dogma. Yes, there are universal truths about certain things that can be counted on, but those are seriously, Sun Tzu type things. They're the kind of things found in Roger's Rangers' Standing Orders - the bedrocks of universal truths about humanity that UW Gear itself was founded on. These quibbles you reference seem to be small. Get past it, understand our POV (see above), don't be a dick (actually one of Rogers' unwritten rules, it's true, I read it on the Internet!) and we can all get along. Looks like I was a little late.
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