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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 22, 2015 2:12:15 GMT -5
Yeah, no thanks mate. Needs to be MTP/Multicam because that colour stands out like a dog's dick and they don't mind us using foreign/commercial stuff that's milspec, but it has to at least look like it's issued. Cheers for the offer though
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Post by hudson5969 on Jan 22, 2015 10:02:38 GMT -5
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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 22, 2015 13:16:48 GMT -5
hudson5969 I think you're fine, especially considering that they advertise and (I believe) are a distributor of Tactical Tailor gear on their website I take it, looking at that, that you can just fold the flap lid away and not use the webbing loop on it, if you wanted to carry say, A waterbottle?
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Post by Hawkeye on Jan 22, 2015 13:17:38 GMT -5
Yeah, we're a TT dealer so no worries.
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Post by hudson5969 on Jan 23, 2015 9:31:57 GMT -5
@panzer 0170
The webbing loop (Y-harness style) goes to either side of the standard canteen top, like the MOLLE canteen carriers are usually used.
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Post by Diz on Jan 23, 2015 15:33:28 GMT -5
Hmmm. I don't think the shovel is gonna fit in the canteen/utility pouch, although there are a bunch of those around, even in OCP. You should be able to pick one up no sweat.
Right now my beltkit tips the scales at 14 lbs, and the chest rig is another 4, so about 18 lbs, all up. The assault pack is about the same, depending on how many spare batts n stuff I add. There's a good 36 lbs. The large ruck doesn't really add that much weight, the way I'm packing things now. Mostly clothing layers and sleep system n stuff. So figure another 15 to 20. If I'm carrying the whole kit, basically 55 to 60 lbs or so. Mission and weather dependent.
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Post by hudson5969 on Jan 24, 2015 13:11:25 GMT -5
Question on the belt rig:
I think you guys are about to make the belt kit that answers the problems I have with the current belts out there.
If I can make a suggestion: make the webbing belt more adjustable than the standard Cobra belt other guys put out, I think you get like a max of 4" adjustability with their belts. If you could perhaps make 8" adjustability (hopefully the belt will "tunnel" back into the padded area), so a person could order a belt such that it could be worn over pants and a combat shirt, and adjusted out for external wear over a parka in cold weather, while still having enough PALS webbing to move gear up to the 9:30, 2:30 positions with the parka on, rather than have to buy two different belts.
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on Jan 24, 2015 13:28:46 GMT -5
Hmmm. I don't think the shovel is gonna fit in the canteen/utility pouch, although there are a bunch of those around, even in OCP. You should be able to pick one up no sweat. Right now my beltkit tips the scales at 14 lbs, and the chest rig is another 4, so about 18 lbs, all up. The assault pack is about the same, depending on how many spare batts n stuff I add. There's a good 36 lbs. The large ruck doesn't really add that much weight, the way I'm packing things now. Mostly clothing layers and sleep system n stuff. So figure another 15 to 20. If I'm carrying the whole kit, basically 55 to 60 lbs or so. Mission and weather dependent. Then add in armor, if needed for mission, and extra water if you can't filter some from ponds/lakes and you're up to 75-80+ pounds. I'll keep hitting the gym.
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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 24, 2015 14:21:08 GMT -5
Question on the belt rig: I think you guys are about to make the belt kit that answers the problems I have with the current belts out there. If I can make a suggestion: make the webbing belt more adjustable than the standard Cobra belt other guys put out, I think you get like a max of 4" adjustability with their belts. If you could perhaps make 8" adjustability (hopefully the belt will "tunnel" back into the padded area), so a person could order a belt such that it could be worn over pants and a combat shirt, and adjusted out for external wear over a parka in cold weather, while still having enough PALS webbing to move gear up to the 9:30, 2:30 positions with the parka on, rather than have to buy two different belts. Google 'Roll pin belt'. All my web gear used to have it. Fits naked, fits with every layer of clothing issued to me worn. It fit me after 6 months in theatre when I lost weight, It fits me now and I've gained about 4 inches EVEN WITH HEAVY THICK CLOTHING. Roll pin belts are the shit.
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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 24, 2015 14:23:09 GMT -5
To expand; The limit of expansion on the belt is the overall length of the belt. You will be left with a 'tail' when cinched down fully. So long as it's not big enough to trip on, or slap you in the face, no worries!
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Post by hudson5969 on Jan 25, 2015 0:04:22 GMT -5
That's cool, but I don't know how they are fixing or sliding the belt through their "war belt", plus the cobra buckles are the balls. If I just want a belt to wear that doesn't have PALS webbing, I'll just keep using my old pistol belt...
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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 25, 2015 8:17:03 GMT -5
That's cool, but I don't know how they are fixing or sliding the belt through their "war belt", plus the cobra buckles are the balls. If I just want a belt to wear that doesn't have PALS webbing, I'll just keep using my old pistol belt... For my part, I think all good sets of webbing have a slip that allows you to swap out the actual belt. Given that the belt is the most likely bit of kit to go down, or need to be changed for any reason (you get fat, you get thin, you give your belt gear to someone else...) Especially with a belt system with so few moving parts (very little in the way of SRBs etc). If the whole thing is sown together rather than messing around with molle (or perhaps the util pouches only, so you swap out mag pouches... this is a VERY nice way of doing things) the belt & buckle area is most likely to go down. Swapping out belts is damned useful (Sure, the buckle, assuming Cobra, is likely to outlive YOU, but the cloth around it...). If you're wearing a similar set of clothes all year/all day round? Cobra is definitely the shiz. If you're likely to change layers and thickness a lot, or you're getting belts for 'community' use? Roll pins provide a 1 size fits all instant working package. Putting the thing on IS adjusting it, so you're covered.
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Post by hudson5969 on Jan 25, 2015 11:25:52 GMT -5
The cobra belts typically have the belt itself run through the buckle and held in pace to either side by Velcro on both the main belt and the end that went through the buckle. The problem is, you typically only get 2" of adjustment on either side. If they just make the tabs Velcro strip longer on the main part of the web belt,you have more adjustability and can just buy the largest belt you need, and adjust it down as necessary.
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Post by panzer0170 on Jan 25, 2015 12:16:47 GMT -5
Oh, I know that. Still requires you to take velcro and adjust then check and potentially readjust. It's a very minor thing, but fastening it -is- adjusting it with the roll pin. It's more of a personal preference, but for belt gear I love roll pin. I think if it were just a pistol belt, I'd probably prefer the cobra.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 2, 2015 17:52:44 GMT -5
My take on the Kit Belt theme, didnt like it at all, previuos to this I had everything atached to an HSGI belt, ( to hot in summer and without the inner stiffener, to flimsy to hold the loaded pouches from sagging outboard ), so swichted to an old Bundeswehr Web belt modified with Cobra Buckle, works a bit better but it still isnt my cup of tea ( or is it a can of Guinnes.. ) nevermind I much preffer a Chest rig but with flaps covering every pouch ! Thats why I want a Minuteman MK III with sewn in pistol holster and double pistol mag. pouches in place of the MOLLE rows ... the rest of gear in backpack, this allows me to go from CCW to full kit just adding a chest rig and backpack, which balances de CH out pretty well. Just a question ( a dumb one I may say ) what kind of trousers belt do you all sport when using the Kit belt ?, no disconfort between trousers belt and kit belt ? that is another Reason why I could never get used to the kit belt thing ... But I am willing to read and learn and get educated by all of you Gentlemen. Attachments:
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