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Post by USMC0331 on Oct 23, 2014 14:38:29 GMT -5
Ok if anyone has not bought the book, do it. ( mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/book-questions-and-concerns/) See this thread also... uwgear.proboards.com/thread/717/reluctant-partisan-john-mosby-reviewI'm going to be establishing par times for his drills by simply running them myself and having newer shooters do the same. I will be posting video of myself most of the time and want you guys to tell me if you think I completed the drill in an "acceptable" Par time or not. Either way, you should be able to determine what you think the par time should be by watching the video clock. Post what you feel is an acceptable par time and then go DO IT yourself and report back if you have the ability to. You can't know, unless you do. First drill is the "Four Position A-Drill" which is SHOT COLD and you only get one run at it for PASS/FAIL so it will be shot only as fast as I know I can make hits or max speed of 80% of what I believe my ability is. Failure on the drill will let me know I think too much of my ability. LOL  |
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Post by kenny256 on Oct 23, 2014 14:48:52 GMT -5
Wow, thanks so much!
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Post by USMC0331 on Oct 23, 2014 15:54:01 GMT -5
No problem... anyone wanting to build quick easy stages like the above which I use for Monday Practical Rifle, the program is located at: mrpc.info/stagebuilder/If you have a prop you want added just let me know. |
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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 23, 2014 16:07:04 GMT -5
Mega useful usmc0331 - I can't train right now, but it's nice to keep my eye in. This could also be useful in the near future for me; I'm looking at becoming at a civilian instructor at the local cadet unit (Think ROTC, but not...) One of the side bonuses of that is getting range qualified, which requires me to get some range time in  |
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Post by waffenmacht on Oct 23, 2014 20:34:15 GMT -5
Looks good, adding this to my team drill when time allows
Can you describe exactly what a "squatting" position looks like?
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Post by USMC0331 on Oct 24, 2014 0:53:33 GMT -5
Haha, I was going to ask the same question. I'll check the book for a description tonight
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Post by USMC0331 on Oct 24, 2014 1:38:45 GMT -5
Well I didn't see a description in the book or on his site so I'm guessing it's the army squat I call "rice paddy prone "  |
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Post by waffenmacht on Oct 24, 2014 6:21:54 GMT -5
Very interesting, I predict alot of misses on the 200 yd line.
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Post by waffenmacht on Oct 24, 2014 6:26:22 GMT -5
One other question, since this drill is shot on paper, wouldn't you need 4 targets (one per position) in order to score an A zone hit from each position? I was under the impression this was a timed event running between positions.
Or, is there down time to score the target between each position?
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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 24, 2014 6:30:09 GMT -5
I wonder if, like we play it, squatting/kneeling are considered equivalent. Because I've found that some people can squat, and some just CAN'T - So we allow squatting to be replaced with kneeling, and vice versa. Kneeling @ 200m is a reasonable proposition. I think this is something that individuals need to look at; Are you ever actually going to squat? If not, replace it with kneeling shots. No point training something you'll never do  The drill itself is solid, but changing that one thing to suit individual biomechanics and personal preference will change the whole thing for the better, methinks. |
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Post by Diz on Oct 24, 2014 6:53:42 GMT -5
Yikes, my problem is getting back to 400m. My favorite outdoor range only goes to 200. But I'm gonna have to see about this.
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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 24, 2014 6:56:16 GMT -5
Yikes, my problem is getting back to 400m. My favorite outdoor range only goes to 200. But I'm gonna have to see about this. I know it's not the same, but perhaps use a smaller target next to the full size? I -KNOW- it's not the same because of windage, elevation, ballistics and a whole host of other things.... But something is better than nothing, right? And as for making that 200m dash? 100 forward and 100 back would work (range rules permitting.) |
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Post by Diz on Oct 24, 2014 6:56:22 GMT -5
Yeah rice paddy squat is something that was popular a few years ago in the SEA wargames. The way I've seen it, you pretty much squat straight down, with weight evenly distributed on both legs. That drawing looks like he's bladed off a bit. It's literally just like squatting to take a ... well you know. It's fairly stable once you can keep your heels flat. But most westerners have to work at that.
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Post by Diz on Oct 24, 2014 6:57:13 GMT -5
Yeah gonna have to see if I can mod it a bit to fit me range.
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Post by USMC0331 on Oct 24, 2014 11:21:37 GMT -5
I think it should be ISO like you said, didn't notice the blading.  I think using a 1/2 size target at 200 and running 200M before engaging is acceptable. Google 1/2 scale IPSC targets, they are much smaller looking than 1/2 but are truly that. We use them in 3gun at 50M and they are challenging! I agree that position sucks and if probably never use it, but the drill is what it is. There is a kneeling stage so you can't use either or IMO. I'm using 1 target because I will have a camera monitoring the hit behind it. I would use 4 if I didn't have that setup. Good point |
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The drill itself is solid, but changing that one thing to suit individual biomechanics and personal preference will change the whole thing for the better, methinks.