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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 16, 2015 17:36:14 GMT -5
My question is; Why? Cost? Access? Something else? Given the advice of many is 'get a glock 19' and the advice of the rest is along the lines of a shield, or at least a 9mm upwards. Explain!  |
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Post by whitebear620 on Oct 16, 2015 17:37:53 GMT -5
I am not sure. I've dealt with Ruger's customer service and they were awesome, not for this pistol though. My wife's SR22 has actually had quite a bit of issues, she has the silver anodized slide non threaded version, not sure if it's because she got a picky one or if the different version is causing the issues.
I'm leaning more towards an M&P 9C, the FDE version with a safety. I personally like having a safety, yes I know you don't need one, but I like it and haven't had an issues with having a safety. I've considered the LC9, but I just want the slightly more capacity of the 9C. Haven't done a side by side comparison though, will probably upgrade with my tax refund, but that means a new holster and everything else that goes with a pistol.
Edit: My apoligies Panzer, didn't see your comment while I was responding.
I did not grow up around firearms and only started acquiring them after 2011, my first rifle was a 22lr that my dad gave me after I graduated basic training (National Guard). So when I was old enough to purchase a pistol, I purchased another 22lr because I figured I already have a 22lr rifle, so why buy different ammunition? I also was still learning about everything so I was a little ignorant in my choice. I also personally, please don't take it personal Glock fans, don't like not having a safety on a pistol, not anything wrong with it, it's just a personal thing.
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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 17, 2015 5:02:24 GMT -5
Nowt wrong with that. sticking with .22 is a smart move if you're just getting into it and not sure and such. cheaper, and like you say; common calibre. No ones gonna take it personal here that you don't like glocks - there's a few on the board already that don't. Firearms are, to a degree, personal choice. (Obviously, there are some obvious 'don't be daft' answers for certain topics. (Shotgun for 1000m shots, 25x scoped handguns...) Personally, I have kid hands. I struggle to operate most of the controls on a full sized pistol like the 17. Using the methodology of just racking the slide for a slide release I can 99% of the time hit the mag release and that's all the controls I need then bar the trigger. I don't decry external safeties... I just don't see the need for them if you're comfortable with your firearms. Had an old browning Hi-Power in Afghan. In camp it sat with the safety on and a round in the chamber, outside it was off. Never did shoot myself  |
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on Oct 17, 2015 13:50:13 GMT -5
Just took a female friend to the range. she has shot very minimally and it was years ago, so essentially a new shooter. Now that her husband passed away, she needs to be the defender for herself (which she should have been anyway, but thats another issue). She wants a bedside weapon
She's 5'-2" and about 110ibs. We shot some of what the husband had and some of mine.
Governor----nope too heavy and too much recoil
Kimber 1911 .45ACP----nope heavy and recoil plus manipulation skills
Taurus 817 .38spl----maybe. she liked the grip and size. could handle kick for the purpose needed may be able to use reduced recoil loads
Glock 19----nope, manipulation skills and recoil
Glock 23----nope, haha (only loaded one round in this one for her)
S&W .22lr 6" barrel semi auto----heavy due to barrel but liked recoil
Kimber Micro .380----manipulation and didn't like recoil out of that micro
CZ82 9x18 Mak----nope, recoil and manipulation
Sig P320? 9mm Kunz (.380)----suck if you have to change mags as it has a mag release on bottom, but did okay on recoil with this one
AK---she wouldn't try
AR---nope, "too many things to push and pull" was her remark. She did fire one round.
Remington 870 12g---Nope, "too much of a gun for her"
Mossberg 500 12g---see above Remi remark
oh and a .32 revolver 6 shot----did okay, has sentimental value as it was her dads
Now, one more quirk....she is moving to Kalifornia soon to be nearer to her daughter, SIL and grandchild. She will be back here in FL several times a year so she will leave one weapon here and 1-2 there.
My thoughts for her is definitely a revolver due to the fact she likely will only train when back here with me from time to time. Since she liked the low recoil and was accurate at 7yds, I think I want her to look at a S&W 351pd which is a seven shot .22 wmr. With Honady Critical Defense loads it brings it to par with a .380. I think she did well with the Taurus as it was a bit larger and heavier so this is a possibility as well.
The reason I post this is everybody cannot shoot what the "thought leaders" on forums say should be shot. Is .22mag a defensive load I would choose, nope but I train. I told her I would rather have her put 3-7 rounds into an attacker and make him think about coming further than miss with one round of something she's not comfortable with.
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Post by panzer0170 on Oct 17, 2015 14:26:42 GMT -5
Agreed. Interesting though. Comparison of that and my Fiancee; She was relatively happy with a G19.
I get the long guns, myself. I honestly think the AR is a pain in the arse, too much weight forward. I'm used to a heavier weapon but it FEELS lighter because the weight is inside my CoG.
Surely a revolver is higher recoil than a semi, given the lack of absorption by springs and such?
I'm sure you're not daft and know what you're on about, I'm just trying to understand what specifically, but what is there to operate on a bloody glock? Magazine in, rack slide? If you ever have to go for a second mag it's the same process, but easier because the slide is 'pre-racked'? GOT to be easier than a speed loader? I get the recoil issue, naturlich.
(insert any .22 semi in place of the 19 and I honestly don't see a manipulation issue over a revolver, unless it's a physical inability to cock the firearm?)
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Post by fox on Nov 1, 2015 19:06:06 GMT -5
Still one of my first posts, so I'll keep it simple. The DW Guardian( bottom left) is on my belt daily, The EB Special Forces (top right)is back up and rides in a Maxpedition Mongo that I take everywhere. The Mongo rides in the passenger seat of my truck when I'm driving, strap over the headrest. It's a quick easy draw from there,  |
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Post by hudson5969 on Nov 1, 2015 22:12:14 GMT -5
Let the hate roll! (Took the Pachmyers of though).  |
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Post by whitebear620 on Nov 2, 2015 11:43:55 GMT -5
Hey, I have no hate. I'm jealous that many 1911s have ambidextrous magazine releases. Sucks to be left handed....
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Post by hudson5969 on Nov 2, 2015 11:49:58 GMT -5
Funny thing is, I'm right handed, but my right eye is noticeably worse than my left, so I tend to shoot pistols left handed. I also find it easier to use the mag release with my middle finger then my thumb, so that works out for anyone who shoots left handed.
On the other hand, shooting rifles, I do right handed. The look-through-the-red-dot method works great because I automatically focus on the target with my left eye, unencumbered by the glass, and the right eye just follows along and superimposes the dot on the target.
Weaknesses are just future strengths waiting to be trained.
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Post by whitebear620 on Mar 31, 2017 19:06:07 GMT -5
Post coming on my new EDC pistol, finely wised up and I'm getting the Shield in 9mm.
It's gonna be nice having a pistol that actually has aftermarket support for holsters and such.
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Post by trailrunner909 on Apr 1, 2017 9:27:24 GMT -5
Post coming on my new EDC pistol, finely wised up and I'm getting the Shield in 9mm. It's gonna be nice having a pistol that actually has aftermarket support for holsters and such. Good time to get one with the rebate they are running. |
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Post by whitebear620 on Apr 1, 2017 13:01:41 GMT -5
Post coming on my new EDC pistol, finely wised up and I'm getting the Shield in 9mm. It's gonna be nice having a pistol that actually has aftermarket support for holsters and such. Good time to get one with the rebate they are running. Heck yeah, was already planning it. The rebate just is icing on the cake |
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Post by ulf on Apr 26, 2017 8:22:51 GMT -5
My EDC is a G23 backed by a G27 with at least two spare mags. No pics because they're stock other than the addition of night sights. G23 is worn AIWB most often, sometimes the G27 is AIWB - this is weather and situation dependent. Sometimes the both ride in a shoulder bag. Always carry two knives - one for incidental use and a fighter. Shoulder bag also carries a full IFAK.
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Post by whitebear620 on Apr 26, 2017 13:57:55 GMT -5
My EDC is a G23 backed by a G27 with at least two spare mags. No pics because they're stock other than the addition of night sights. G23 is worn AIWB most often, sometimes the G27 is AIWB - this is weather and situation dependent. Sometimes the both ride in a shoulder bag. Always carry two knives - one for incidental use and a fighter. Shoulder bag also carries a full IFAK. Come on man, ditch the shoulder bag. Wear cargoes |
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Post by ulf on Apr 26, 2017 19:32:01 GMT -5
All my OTHER crap is already in the cargo pockets!😎
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