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Post by panzer0170 on May 15, 2014 17:36:55 GMT -5
@ Paul; I have to ask, never having touched revolvers. Reloading that thing, assuming there is something bad happening.... Is it really as crap as people say, or is it just a 'skill'? There's always a lot of hate towards certain things, and it seems for a LOT of them, it's just a training thing. Finally finding someone who carries one and is willing to trust it... What's the gen? I love revolvers. My j frame is 100% reliable and easy to carry. I'll be the first to admit that I don't have enough realistic training time or stressful reloading practice. The speedstrips work well, but it is definitely slower than a semiauto. I live in a safe area and just hope that I won't be attacked by multiple assailants. I would need to find cover to survive reloading the revolver. If I knew I had to go into a bad area I would carry my Glock 19. Otherwise, I feel adequately protected with the Smith. That is perhaps the most sensible answer I've ever seen for any form of carry ever. Little bit of personal bias, live in a reasonable area, acceptance that you are not the lord of all warfare etc, and that what you have is right for what you feel is your needs, rather than 'F*ck you guy, revolvers are awesome!' or some other form of biased crap. THANKS!
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Post by Paul on May 15, 2014 17:47:59 GMT -5
I love revolvers. My j frame is 100% reliable and easy to carry. I'll be the first to admit that I don't have enough realistic training time or stressful reloading practice. The speedstrips work well, but it is definitely slower than a semiauto. I live in a safe area and just hope that I won't be attacked by multiple assailants. I would need to find cover to survive reloading the revolver. If I knew I had to go into a bad area I would carry my Glock 19. Otherwise, I feel adequately protected with the Smith. That is perhaps the most sensible answer I've ever seen for any form of carry ever. Little bit of personal bias, live in a reasonable area, acceptance that you are not the lord of all warfare etc, and that what you have is right for what you feel is your needs, rather than 'F*ck you guy, revolvers are awesome!' or some other form of biased crap. THANKS! Thank you Panzer. I appreciate your feedback.
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Post by panzer0170 on May 15, 2014 17:55:43 GMT -5
@ Paul; Welcome I quite like revolvers from the aesthetic side of things, and having lived in the UK most of my life (Or somewhere without any great proliferation of firearms, less going away with work...) It's not a big issue in my country - The police aren't armed, in general, and it WORKS. I'm not, in the slightest, saying that's what America should do (Christ, I can WALK to the nearest 2 hospitals here in under an hour, and I can reach probably 4-5 police stations; Rural America you could do that and not meet another HUMAN....) but it's just something that my only experience of is Military, where it's very much open carry and THIS IS THE GUN YOU GET, with no choice as to type, calibre etc... It's just interesting learning from folk, rather than reading the same stale stuff on MOST forums (apparent capacity vs apparent reliability etc).
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Post by USMC0331 on May 15, 2014 18:00:24 GMT -5
paul, I have a 442 and the same strip carrier from SR. If you only load 4 into the stripper with two blanks in the middle it will make your load times 1/2 of trying to load 5 into the gun. Spell checked by iPhone
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Post by Dave R on May 15, 2014 19:46:44 GMT -5
Do any of you have a form of "Car Carry"
IE: Holster screwed into center console.
If so, I'd like to see some pictures.
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Post by USMC0331 on May 15, 2014 20:05:50 GMT -5
@dave R, I have to store my CCW for work and while traveling through CA on the way to Brookings, OR and do so in this setup. click for details I removed the quick popup shock because it leaked and padded the box. It's cabled into the seat and is very accessible while driving but I rarely drive without the gun on my belt so it's for storage when going into NPE's mostly. The last thing I want to have happen is for a traffic stop to be turned into a felony stop because the Officer saw my gun velcro'd beneath the steering column or in the side door compartment within easy reach. Also, a locked box can't be searched without PC or opened during a "inventory" if they decide to search the vehicle by towing it for some bogus reason.
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Post by Paul on May 16, 2014 15:06:39 GMT -5
paul, I have a 442 and the same strip carrier from SR. If you only load 4 into the stripper with two blanks in the middle it will make your load times 1/2 of trying to load 5 into the gun. Spell checked by iPhone Hmmm...that is a very good idea. I guess I could carry two strips of four round each. Thanks!
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Post by omnivorous on May 16, 2014 22:18:59 GMT -5
Do any of you have a form of "Car Carry" IE: Holster screwed into center console. If so, I'd like to see some pictures. I was thinking about it, but I don't see how I could benefit from it. In every situation I can think of, I'd rather have my defensive pistol in my appendix holster, on my person. I don't think "console carry" is optimal.
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Post by Dave R on May 30, 2014 16:26:14 GMT -5
Thanks to Paul, I now have my lightweight summer carry. S&W 442Critical Defense 110 Gr
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Post by panzer0170 on May 30, 2014 16:36:26 GMT -5
@dave R For those of us the wrong side of the pond (AFAIK just me, actually...) Is that a black version of what Paul carries? I double checked pictures and I'm sure it is, but I've seen that many guns before that LOOK the same, but have some difference that is perhaps not obvious to the eye. Any modifications or other differences, other than black metal and grips? Apologies for being the slow uptaker, but handguns got banned outright here when we had the Dunblane Massacre (our very own Sandy Hook, but 15 or so years earlier). I was still SEVEN at the time, and guns not being anywhere near as big a part of our culture this isn't something that really I really even noticed until into my teens, therefore my handgun knowledge is pretty much limited to Service pistols and my experience of them... And youtube / a couple of times at a range/field in the US.
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Post by Dave R on May 30, 2014 17:31:09 GMT -5
@panzer,
You nailed it, basically just black on black. I may be wrong, but I believe Paul has the S&W 642 (stainless), while I went with the S&W 442 (black). Same revolver.
As for the Dunblane Massacre, I never heard of it until now. That is tragic, but the Amish here in Pennsylvania have a saying, "You need not call the devil. He'll come without calling." Gun or no gun, he was going to act. That's one good thing about the slow moving gears of the U.S Government and the steps they need to take. The wrong majority could not beat the right minority in the case of the gun control push after Sandy Hook.
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Post by panzer0170 on May 30, 2014 19:36:59 GMT -5
Yeah, the thing with Dunblane was that the bloke who did it? Got a gun because the police failed. And to be fair, our coppers (NOW) are pretty bloody good at stuff like that. Problem was the knee jerk reaction, and the amusing thing is that they banned handguns, but things you can kill from a distance? The kind that if you were PROPERLY nutty, and wanted to do some damage with? Totally legal. Shotguns are limited to 4 rounds (I know folk who will reload 8 rounds through a double barrel faster than most will cycle them through a pump...) and you're not allowed anything that can be converted to full auto. (So anything that is semi like an AR-15, but can be MADE full auto? Illegal. Other than that? Go for your life. It's all registered and very heavily controlled, but I'm pretty sure we're not much different to Cali, in a lot of ways. Some rules are probably actually looser, others are definitely tighter.
(Also; You have a bit of law, somewhere, that says you have a right. Our constitution is not all written down in one place nicely. Yours is. My only question/worry, is that whilst I agree with every persons right to defend themselves, and therefore their right to a firearm.... Surely it being an 'amendment' means it can be re-amended.)
PS: I am not flaming. Serious question, and if you haven't figured out yet I am pro-gun. But I've always wondered this, in regards to ALL the Amendments. If it's been amended, or changed... surely that means it is NOT fixed in stone, even if it should be?
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Post by Paul on Jun 4, 2014 16:01:42 GMT -5
Thanks to Paul, I now have my lightweight summer carry. S&W 442Critical Defense 110 Gr Thanks Dave. You're right, it is just a 642 with no lock. Hope you enjoy your j frame.
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Post by whitebear620 on Oct 16, 2015 15:47:24 GMT -5
My current carry...is a 22lr. Ruger SR22, very reliable as I feed it only brass CCI or other quality 22lr, it hates lead with a fiery passion. Will upgrade eventually, but it works for now because it is the pistol I always have on me if I'm not at work or another environment where possession of a firearm is illegal. Attachments:
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Post by Dave R on Oct 16, 2015 16:51:56 GMT -5
Are you going to stick with the Ruger line when you upgrade?
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