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Post by whitebear620 on Oct 31, 2015 16:32:52 GMT -5
In saving up for and planning my AR build, I've been bouncing around the useful of a bayonet. I'm thinking of going for a mid-length 16" with the YHM folding front sight block. This gives me foldable front sight, which I personally prefer when using a red dot sight, and the ability to use a bayonet.
Who has/uses a bayonet lug on their AR15s?
Just curious.
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Post by Erick on Nov 1, 2015 4:17:50 GMT -5
I have bayonet lugs on a couple of my ARs.
Even had a surplus bayonet for mounting (not sure where it is now.. somewhere around here )
In the end I have never mounted mine during training...as I feel I lose some handiness and add weight (shrug).
Everything I carry has to earn its weight on my rig.... not sure the bayonet does....
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Post by winter on Nov 1, 2015 4:54:30 GMT -5
weight vs utility.
The bayonet has weight and zero utility, except as a rifle stand, on modern military rifles.
Here's why. The bayonet makes a rifle into a spear. It you have a Mosin, 1903A3, or other rifle that makes it an effective spear than it has it's uses. A carbine with a bayonet is the retarded uncle of a fat tomahawk. It has no reach and is ergonomically awkward.
A knife in your strong hand and your carbine as a shield in your weak hand would be better.
Drop the bayonet and carry another magazine and you won't need the bayonet. (well, for 30 more rounds)
I'm pretty faded, so ....
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Post by eddiewouldclearhot on Nov 1, 2015 8:54:14 GMT -5
If you are going with fold down sights, why would you add a bayonet lug?
It only make sense if you are going with an A2 gas block/fixed front sight.
no need for bayonet. carry a tomahawk. much more useful. Boynet is a niche tool.
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Post by hudson5969 on Nov 1, 2015 12:15:59 GMT -5
The OKC 3S is a good bayonet and a good knife. I really wouldn't bother with any other bayonet, specifically because this can do utility knife work, which is most of what you'd need a sharp for.
I have to agree that unless you are running a rifle length, it's pretty much tits on a bull.
I also have to agree with Eddie that a tomahawk is far more useful, and much more dangerous a weapon in H2H. Get a decent hawk or machete and a good folding knife, and you have all the sharps you really need.
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Post by whitebear620 on Nov 1, 2015 15:31:53 GMT -5
Good points guys. I guess I just carried away with the idea.Plus I usually sling my rifle and I think that pretty much makes a bayonet useless for my use. If I get the bayonet lug, it's there, but it's not a big deal if it isn't.
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Post by judomayhem on Nov 2, 2015 0:09:02 GMT -5
I'll be a voice of dissent as another one in favor of the k-bar styled bayonet for civi use, for the reasoning listed above.
I purchased the older M7 (dagger) for duty use, as I'm not SF and therefor do not do any utility/bushcraft stuff with large blades while in uniform. As a recon guy, having my hide compromised and dealing with things in a (hopefully) quick and quiet fashion is a legitimate concern.
Read Cold Steel by Styers for sound combative instruction on both bayonet and blade work. It is now available for free online.
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Post by winter on Nov 2, 2015 3:54:10 GMT -5
I'll be a voice of dissent as another one in favor of the k-bar styled bayonet for civi use, for the reasoning listed above. I purchased the older M7 (dagger) for duty use, as I'm not SF and therefor do not do any utility/bushcraft stuff with large blades while in uniform. As a recon guy, having my hide compromised and dealing with things in a (hopefully) quick and quiet fashion is a legitimate concern. Read Cold Steel by Styers for sound combative instruction on both bayonet and blade work. It is now available for free online. I was a recon guy. I needed a blade for fieldcraft and for building hide sites. The more you can do with your knife, the less shit I needed to carry. I concur on John Styers "Cold Steel" as an excellent unarmed combat book IMO. |
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