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Post by panzer0170 on May 7, 2015 10:07:37 GMT -5
We strap all sorts of stuff to our rifles, including shotguns, grenade launchers etc.
We carry 'secondary' firearms alongside rifles in case of stoppages etc.
We put forward mounted pistol grips on our rifles.
With something like the ALG 6-Second Mount, what are the advantages and disadvantages of just plain old mounting a pistol on a picatinny rail, assuming the slide remains free to operate like ALGs offering?
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Post by waffenmacht on May 7, 2015 12:02:31 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. Looking at the ALG mount, I see a few issues. #1, what holster fits that? #2, there are already red-dot optics that mount to the rear dovetail so needing a picitinny up top isn't that important. #3 same for the bottom, most/many combat handguns already have a rail built into the dustcover. #4, what is the weight of this contraption?
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Post by otis on May 7, 2015 12:20:26 GMT -5
you'd have just manufactured an SBR, and better have a permission slip.
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on May 7, 2015 14:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by panzer0170 on May 7, 2015 16:12:22 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. Looking at the ALG mount, I see a few issues. #1, what holster fits that? #2, there are already red-dot optics that mount to the rear dovetail so needing a picitinny up top isn't that important. #3 same for the bottom, most/many combat handguns already have a rail built into the dustcover. #4, what is the weight of this contraption? Imagine a G19 strapped to an M16 ala M203. |
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Post by panzer0170 on May 7, 2015 16:14:18 GMT -5
you'd have just manufactured an SBR, and better have a permission slip. Didn't consider that could be a disadvantage, unless I was building an SBR anyway I suppose. However, given that it's perfectly legal to own an SBR, assuming it's valid and you were attaching it to something that you'd already payed a stamp on? |
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Post by panzer0170 on May 7, 2015 16:18:28 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. Looking at the ALG mount, I see a few issues. #1, what holster fits that? #2, there are already red-dot optics that mount to the rear dovetail so needing a picitinny up top isn't that important. #3 same for the bottom, most/many combat handguns already have a rail built into the dustcover. #4, what is the weight of this contraption? TAlso, to clarify; The ALG thing is VERY niche. I'm talking about rather than mount an optic, use a similar frame to mount it to a rifle. Fuck, it'd fit just right underside a Tavor and you'd have a primary and secondary weapon, always pointed the 'right' way, and if you got a stoppage you just move one finger and fire till you're clear/safe, no? |
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Post by Dave R on May 7, 2015 21:42:43 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. Looking at the ALG mount, I see a few issues. #1, what holster fits that? #2, there are already red-dot optics that mount to the rear dovetail so needing a picitinny up top isn't that important. #3 same for the bottom, most/many combat handguns already have a rail built into the dustcover. #4, what is the weight of this contraption? Imagine a G19 strapped to an M16 ala M203. Not really seeing the benefit. Just like I dont see a benefit to attaching a bayonet to a pistol. |
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Post by thefng on May 8, 2015 1:36:35 GMT -5
 Technically, you're not adding a buttstock, so it's not an SBR, and you'd have to mount it something like this to allow the slide to move. I think it would actually be more useful to have a semiauto shotgun mounted under there. The Beretta 1301 has its recoil system around the mag tube, so it doesn't need a buttstock. Such a contraption would be an AOW at least, and an SBS if you wanted to be able to have a stock to put on it. |
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Post by panzer0170 on May 8, 2015 5:02:58 GMT -5
Imagine a G19 strapped to an M16 ala M203. Not really seeing the benefit. Just like I dont see a benefit to attaching a bayonet to a pistol. Just wondering if it gets over the issue of finding space for a pistol on your belt AND the issue of pissing about drawing. The obvious Drama in confined spaces is you can't then switch to a smaller weapon system or face one way and draw and shoot behind you in close quarters etc. It's a very gimmicky idea in my mind, but when I first saw stuff like the 203 I thought that was gimmicky, too. UGL is tied to an individual? What if they go man down and we want to keep using it? Now I have to hump a rifle AND the GL, or remove, convert, and re-zero. Turns out I was utterly wrong, and it's a bloody cracking piece of kit, mind you. |
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Post by waffenmacht on May 8, 2015 6:17:35 GMT -5
Ok Panzer, I am following you now. It might be "super" niche, I wouldn't use it, I don't want any more weight out on the muzzle end of my rifle. I honestly don't like handguns anyway, I feel they are a band-aid at best. But that's a whole nother discussion.
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Post by protus on May 8, 2015 9:16:33 GMT -5
Technically, you're not adding a buttstock, so it's not an SBR, and you'd have to mount it something like this to allow the slide to move. I think it would actually be more useful to have a semiauto shotgun mounted under there. The Beretta 1301 has its recoil system around the mag tube, so it doesn't need a buttstock. Such a contraption would be an AOW at least, and an SBS if you wanted to be able to have a stock to put on it. That there is the makings of an awesome call of duty weapon perk....how much XP do I need to UN lock that thing? |
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Post by UnforseenWeather on May 8, 2015 10:13:27 GMT -5
I genuinely can't see any advantage to it at all, personally.  |
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Post by thefng on May 8, 2015 10:57:31 GMT -5
That application looks like a total boondoggle, but someone thought it was a good idea.
But then, someone thought the Chauchat was a good idea.....
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Post by waffenmacht on May 8, 2015 12:52:07 GMT -5
But then, they were...French  |
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