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Post by rmplstlskn on Mar 9, 2015 22:35:57 GMT -5
With the limitations of NV, I wonder if having IR handheld would be useful when observing an area for trespassers? I have only seen LE, MIL, YouTube and Hollywood uses of IR, so I have no idea how useful that technology is...
Some great "keep it real" comments Erick....
That is some brown, dry pineland scrub there, Hawkeye... Careful with fires there! Reminds me of central Florida. Lots of scrub to grab you and tangle you... I am real glad I don't have to climb over Palmetto scrub land... Some serious sawtooth hell mixed in with ankle-breaking exposed roots.
My night tests above had a horizontal branch about shin level too. Kicked it good in the dark and took off some skin. Should wear knee-high socks under my BDU's, I guess. It was one of my more colorful tirades in my head when that happened...
Rmpl
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Post by winter on Mar 9, 2015 23:48:43 GMT -5
To be quiet, you just go slower. Slow down till you meet your acceptable noise level. It is that easy.
LRRP's in Vietnam, in thick brush, only traveling at night would go 100-300 yards from dusk till dawn and bed down all day.
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Post by Erick on Mar 10, 2015 6:21:28 GMT -5
With the limitations of NV, I wonder if having IR handheld would be useful when observing an area for trespassers? I have only seen LE, MIL, YouTube and Hollywood uses of IR, so I have no idea how useful that technology is...
Its quite useful. But generally it still needs to be cued in some way to know where to point it. Unlike PVS series NVGs it can see thru brush. But when operating in highly compartmentalized terrain you may miss your "customers". While powerful its not the all seeing eye or mordor and when acting as OPFOR at MVT the occasional student team would slip thru at night even though we knew a) they were coming b) approx where from c) were very alert and d) had NVGs and a roving FLIR on vehicle. Under these conditions no one should have been able to escape our detection but about 1 in 5 teams do. Now imagine a less alert OPFOR, w/o certain knowledge someone is coming and no approx knowledge where from... so again tech is a fantastic aid but will not solve all problems for you or OPFOR.
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Post by rmplstlskn on Mar 10, 2015 6:56:24 GMT -5
LRRP's in Vietnam, in thick brush, only traveling at night would go 100-300 yards from dusk till dawn and bed down all day. I did not know this... Wow!
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 10, 2015 8:23:27 GMT -5
I have a soft spot for LRRP's. My uncle was one in the Rangers in Vietnam. The stories/lessons he can tell.... He is the tall one on the right...
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Post by panzer0170 on Mar 10, 2015 16:26:10 GMT -5
With the limitations of NV, I wonder if having IR handheld would be useful when observing an area for trespassers? I have only seen LE, MIL, YouTube and Hollywood uses of IR, so I have no idea how useful that technology is...
Its quite useful. But generally it still needs to be cued in some way to know where to point it. Unlike PVS series NVGs it can see thru brush. But when operating in highly compartmentalized terrain you may miss your "customers". While powerful its not the all seeing eye or mordor and when acting as OPFOR at MVT the occasional student team would slip thru at night even though we knew a) they were coming b) approx where from c) were very alert and d) had NVGs and a roving FLIR on vehicle. Under these conditions no one should have been able to escape our detection but about 1 in 5 teams do. Now imagine a less alert OPFOR, w/o certain knowledge someone is coming and no approx knowledge where from... so again tech is a fantastic aid but will not solve all problems for you or OPFOR. To add to that, in the right conditions (specifically, deserts, at dawn and dusk) the soaked heat of the earth is getting released and effectively blinds them to anything but a supernova. We found in Afghanistan that THIS was when EF would attack. Getting hard to see, or getting too bright for night vision. FLIR doesn't work... Whammy. Even with the technology change, standing to works
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