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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 19, 2014 12:58:48 GMT -5
Max V just posted this on his blog. Firefight in YOUR Neighborhood: Break Contact!I think Max brings up some points, and it goes along with things we've discussed here before. Accurate suppressive fire, training/teamwork, PT, etc... Each of those aspects it important. Take for instance the PT part... yeah, I don't think you have to be a PT stud, but at the same time, could you hold up to that kind of fire and maneuver with a loadout on for any decent amount of time? Things to consider and ask yourself, and maybe use as a basis to formulate some goals for yourself... starting small and then working up. Here is the video itself. Obviously, a bit more accurate fire could be used vs. the hip mounted spray and pray seen in many instances, but still, an intense situation to be in and have to go through. |
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Post by Diz on Nov 19, 2014 13:12:14 GMT -5
Wow that's a sobering thought to think that could be your neighborhood. They could be running and gunning right out of YOUR house. That guy's garage they laid up in at the end was eerie, with garage door full of holes.
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 19, 2014 13:39:24 GMT -5
Sobering indeed.
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Post by omnivorous on Nov 19, 2014 14:47:23 GMT -5
Looked like a lot of panic fire, sometimes just in a direction where potential enemy fire may come from, but with no indication an enemy presence is there. These guys seem to be spooked by something...
Unless there is a fore end installed with an additional grip added, either vertical or at an angle, like what Zenitco offers for the PKM/PKP, there aren't a lot of options for more accurate fire, other than in the prone with the bipod deployed. The guys with AKs have no such excuse, though.
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on Nov 19, 2014 19:43:04 GMT -5
Wow that's a sobering thought to think that could be your neighborhood. They could be running and gunning right out of YOUR house. That guy's garage they laid up in at the end was eerie, with garage door full of holes. Yeah, door full of holes as well as some of the fences. I liked how the camera man kept checking the back of the garage to be sure nobody was coming out of hiding shooting....or maybe he was just looking for another way out. Was that a tracked vehicle that you could hear part way through? If so, that might have been what spooked them if it was looking for them. |
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Post by winter on Nov 19, 2014 19:52:11 GMT -5
These guys don't seem to know basic shit any Ft Benning 11B trainee knows.
I am fat as hell but I'm fit enough to shuffle from cover to cover. I move faster than that when hunting.
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Post by omnivorous on Nov 20, 2014 10:36:42 GMT -5
These guys don't seem to know basic shit any Ft Benning 11B trainee knows. I am fat as hell but I'm fit enough to shuffle from cover to cover. I move faster than that when hunting. Their training has probably been minimal. So, how does that expression go, when you're under stress, don't rise to the occasion, you fall back to your lowest level of training? |
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Post by winter on Nov 20, 2014 16:05:34 GMT -5
Yeah, it's really weird. I bet 10 guys with precision rifles, some training, and some motivation could change the tide of the whole battle.
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Post by Erick on Nov 20, 2014 16:14:27 GMT -5
That must have been a real nice neighborhood pre war for Ukraine.
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Post by omnivorous on Nov 20, 2014 16:37:42 GMT -5
Thats must have been a real nice neighborhood pre war for Ukraine. Yeah, it looked rather good, you know, compared to the stereotypical Eastern European "standard". |
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