Post by TX-Zen on Dec 5, 2011 20:19:35 GMT -5
Hey guys, posted this on arfcom but Hawk suggested I post over here too.
I collect a bit of SVD related gear and some types of Russian camo, this thread is about a few of the things I've picked up that looked interesting
Had another go around with SURPAT camo from Survival Corps/SRVV in Russia, this time a full uniform and some headgear among other things. I’d previously gotten some of the SVD pouches to try out a few months ago and while I wasn’t happy with how quiet they were(n’t), I was happy with the company itself and the quality of the gear itself was very good, so I was ok with getting more stuff in the future. This time around I wanted to try out a couple of IFAK/medical/utility molle pouches along with what they call a suit/smock uniform, mainly because the smock has a hood vs the other BDU style uniforms that don’t. After using the SPOSN Gorka and Partizan uniforms all summer I really ended up liking having a built in hood partly for weather but mostly for extra camo, so that was the deciding factor with the SRRV choice of uniforms.
I have to say the quality of the uniform is really good. It seems like it has the same kind of attention to detail that SPOSN puts into their gear which is probably to be expected since like SPOSN, Survival Corps is an aftermarket company who sells to the military. To me the uniform seems to be as good quality as the US woodland BDU’s that I was issued in the Army and pretty close to the same feel as the USMC desert MARPAT’s that my Marine BIL sent me.
SURPAT is an interesting color pattern and one that IMO is probably a good all-around choice of camo, it seems to blend well in a wide range of environments. (For reference, SURPAT/Survival Pattern is the Russian version of MARPAT or CADPAT and seems to work really well in the pictures that I’ve seen, plus my own experiments so far)
SRVV Suit ‘Smock’ and Trousers
www.srvv.org/en/catalog/1294/28647/
50/50 cotton/nylon riptstop
Similar to Gorka in design but lighter ripstop BDU weight fabric , not exactly designed for winter or mountain use specifically IMO but these are well made though and very comfy. The trousers are also 50/50 ripstop and are pretty lightweight, similar to summer BDU’s but softer feeling.
Has a nice array of pockets too
Headgear is really nice, the patrol cap is exactly the same cut and style as my old US Army BDU cap
SRVV/Survival Corps Medic/Utility pouches on the BCS/Behind Lines SVD chest rig
(SRVV doesn’t make the rig but I was able to find the cordura material to send to BCS)
NDM86 with homemade SURPAT wraps
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And the SRVV SVD pouches I had from earlier this year:
(OD pouch is actually SPLAV, another Russian gear manufacturer)
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zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Tactical/SRVV-SPLAV-SVD02.JPG[/img]
Some rare-ish SVD pouches I've been looking for, might as well throw these in while we’re talking about SVD pouches
(thanks to Hark from theakforum.net )
SPOSN SMERSH SVD pouches and SPOSN 2x SVD mag single pouch
These do seem to fit US LBE pistol belts, it's tight but you can get them wiggled on if you need to. Each pouch holds a total of 4 SVD mags and 2 grenades
For reference SMERSH is an LBE style webgear basically inspired by the older USA LBE/ALICE system but with some changes from what I can see. One thing that SPOSN is good at is not reinventing the wheel…if a proven system works they don’t have a problem using it (from the US LBE gear to former German SS camo patterns, they don’t seem to mind where things originate) and when the produce it the gear is high quality and well made. I’m tempted to pick to pick up a full set of SMERSH SVD gear but I haven’t yet since I still have my perfectly functional LBE from my Army days. It’s interesting enough to make me consider it for the collection though so we’ll see.
Pack can be moved from the back to the waist and there are modern versions in newer color patterns also. The basic rig can be configured for AK/RPK, PKM or SVD pouches
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zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Tactical/SMERSH-SVD-RIG.jpg[/img]
And for comparison my older Russian camo thread about Gorka and Partizan (the other thread seems to have vanished into the archives):
These are from Justin at Skippers Military Supply and Dmitry from Soviet-Propaganda.com
As labelled these are all SPOSN after market uniforms, not general issue but apparently available for individual soldier purchase and in some cases issued to certain units, from what I understand. SPOSN makes really high quality uniforms, I am really impressed with all of these and have already commented that I wish I had a Gorka when I was in the US Army. The Partizan is a tad light-weight for my taste (though heavier and more durable than the Modoks KZM Partizan I recently sold), but the Partizan-M is ultra comfortable. And you really can't beat the comfortable feel and fit of the Gorka series, seriously.
Partizan's are interesting uniforms, big, comfortable and fully reversible including all pockets. Buttons are designed to push through to the other side and you can run the strings through holes after you reverse too. Partizan has a mesh for better hearing, Partizan M doesn't but has an extra set of pockets on the front and is a heavier and nicer feeling uniform. They also include a face net for better camo and have plenty of attachment points for adding foliage to the uniform.
Autumn Pattern on the reverse side:
Gorka trousers
Comparison of autumn trouser patterns
Partizan (left) and Partizan M summer colors
Autumn colors Partizan (left), Partizan M and Gorka-E Autumn
And TX-Zen junior (who prefers 'TX-Curbmonkey') with his favorite rifle trying out the Partizan-M
Gorka-E
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zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Optics/1P29_SGL31-ZenGorka-E_Autumn01.JPG[/img]
Partizan oversuit
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zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/Optics/1P78Kashtan_Z_SGL31_PartizanSummerRight02.JPG[/img]
Small comparison of the autumn colors in the yard
The Gorka-R came from SkippersMilitarySupply and the rest from Soviet-Propaganda, both Justin and Dmitry have been excellent to deal with and I'm really happy with the quality of service from both.
Some pics of the Modoks KZM Partizan I sold
Not reversible, no foliage loops and no face net. Also feels like a track suit, I wasn't impressed...but then again I think this really is only an oversuit and not a uniform by itself. I wouldn't call it crap but it's definitely not as well made or versatile as the SPOSN Partizan.
Partizan-M autumn side in action in East Texas summer
With Chamelion SVD chest rig (holds 10 mags)
And BCS SVD Rig in A-TACS
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zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/SVDChestRig/ATACS-10magSVDChestRig03.JPG[/img]
BDU caps and boonie, SS Summer and Autumn patterns. These hats are super lightweight, almost like a bandana with an attached brim. I feel like they are more for pure camoflauge than they are for keeping the weather off your head...comfy though. There's a decent amount of stretch to the fabric also so I don't think you have to get your size dead on.
Z
I collect a bit of SVD related gear and some types of Russian camo, this thread is about a few of the things I've picked up that looked interesting
Had another go around with SURPAT camo from Survival Corps/SRVV in Russia, this time a full uniform and some headgear among other things. I’d previously gotten some of the SVD pouches to try out a few months ago and while I wasn’t happy with how quiet they were(n’t), I was happy with the company itself and the quality of the gear itself was very good, so I was ok with getting more stuff in the future. This time around I wanted to try out a couple of IFAK/medical/utility molle pouches along with what they call a suit/smock uniform, mainly because the smock has a hood vs the other BDU style uniforms that don’t. After using the SPOSN Gorka and Partizan uniforms all summer I really ended up liking having a built in hood partly for weather but mostly for extra camo, so that was the deciding factor with the SRRV choice of uniforms.
I have to say the quality of the uniform is really good. It seems like it has the same kind of attention to detail that SPOSN puts into their gear which is probably to be expected since like SPOSN, Survival Corps is an aftermarket company who sells to the military. To me the uniform seems to be as good quality as the US woodland BDU’s that I was issued in the Army and pretty close to the same feel as the USMC desert MARPAT’s that my Marine BIL sent me.
SURPAT is an interesting color pattern and one that IMO is probably a good all-around choice of camo, it seems to blend well in a wide range of environments. (For reference, SURPAT/Survival Pattern is the Russian version of MARPAT or CADPAT and seems to work really well in the pictures that I’ve seen, plus my own experiments so far)
SRVV Suit ‘Smock’ and Trousers
www.srvv.org/en/catalog/1294/28647/
50/50 cotton/nylon riptstop
Similar to Gorka in design but lighter ripstop BDU weight fabric , not exactly designed for winter or mountain use specifically IMO but these are well made though and very comfy. The trousers are also 50/50 ripstop and are pretty lightweight, similar to summer BDU’s but softer feeling.
Has a nice array of pockets too
Headgear is really nice, the patrol cap is exactly the same cut and style as my old US Army BDU cap
SRVV/Survival Corps Medic/Utility pouches on the BCS/Behind Lines SVD chest rig
(SRVV doesn’t make the rig but I was able to find the cordura material to send to BCS)
NDM86 with homemade SURPAT wraps
And the SRVV SVD pouches I had from earlier this year:
(OD pouch is actually SPLAV, another Russian gear manufacturer)
Some rare-ish SVD pouches I've been looking for, might as well throw these in while we’re talking about SVD pouches
(thanks to Hark from theakforum.net )
SPOSN SMERSH SVD pouches and SPOSN 2x SVD mag single pouch
These do seem to fit US LBE pistol belts, it's tight but you can get them wiggled on if you need to. Each pouch holds a total of 4 SVD mags and 2 grenades
For reference SMERSH is an LBE style webgear basically inspired by the older USA LBE/ALICE system but with some changes from what I can see. One thing that SPOSN is good at is not reinventing the wheel…if a proven system works they don’t have a problem using it (from the US LBE gear to former German SS camo patterns, they don’t seem to mind where things originate) and when the produce it the gear is high quality and well made. I’m tempted to pick to pick up a full set of SMERSH SVD gear but I haven’t yet since I still have my perfectly functional LBE from my Army days. It’s interesting enough to make me consider it for the collection though so we’ll see.
Pack can be moved from the back to the waist and there are modern versions in newer color patterns also. The basic rig can be configured for AK/RPK, PKM or SVD pouches
And for comparison my older Russian camo thread about Gorka and Partizan (the other thread seems to have vanished into the archives):
These are from Justin at Skippers Military Supply and Dmitry from Soviet-Propaganda.com
As labelled these are all SPOSN after market uniforms, not general issue but apparently available for individual soldier purchase and in some cases issued to certain units, from what I understand. SPOSN makes really high quality uniforms, I am really impressed with all of these and have already commented that I wish I had a Gorka when I was in the US Army. The Partizan is a tad light-weight for my taste (though heavier and more durable than the Modoks KZM Partizan I recently sold), but the Partizan-M is ultra comfortable. And you really can't beat the comfortable feel and fit of the Gorka series, seriously.
Partizan's are interesting uniforms, big, comfortable and fully reversible including all pockets. Buttons are designed to push through to the other side and you can run the strings through holes after you reverse too. Partizan has a mesh for better hearing, Partizan M doesn't but has an extra set of pockets on the front and is a heavier and nicer feeling uniform. They also include a face net for better camo and have plenty of attachment points for adding foliage to the uniform.
Autumn Pattern on the reverse side:
Gorka trousers
Comparison of autumn trouser patterns
Partizan (left) and Partizan M summer colors
Autumn colors Partizan (left), Partizan M and Gorka-E Autumn
And TX-Zen junior (who prefers 'TX-Curbmonkey') with his favorite rifle trying out the Partizan-M
Gorka-E
Partizan oversuit
Small comparison of the autumn colors in the yard
The Gorka-R came from SkippersMilitarySupply and the rest from Soviet-Propaganda, both Justin and Dmitry have been excellent to deal with and I'm really happy with the quality of service from both.
Some pics of the Modoks KZM Partizan I sold
Not reversible, no foliage loops and no face net. Also feels like a track suit, I wasn't impressed...but then again I think this really is only an oversuit and not a uniform by itself. I wouldn't call it crap but it's definitely not as well made or versatile as the SPOSN Partizan.
Partizan-M autumn side in action in East Texas summer
With Chamelion SVD chest rig (holds 10 mags)
And BCS SVD Rig in A-TACS
BDU caps and boonie, SS Summer and Autumn patterns. These hats are super lightweight, almost like a bandana with an attached brim. I feel like they are more for pure camoflauge than they are for keeping the weather off your head...comfy though. There's a decent amount of stretch to the fabric also so I don't think you have to get your size dead on.
Z
