Antibiotics/Oral meds/Creams/Lotions and Ointments

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Okay, so in my class I speak/teach about different antibiotics and meds. This is a 1-2+ hour class and just goes over the basics. So as promised, this is my list of Rx and OTC meds. Just like most things this is just an opinion of one old guy who has done medicine for just shy of 50 years and has been in the 'preparedness' circle since 1999.

Doxycycline -Covers wide range of problems…Anthrax, Lyme, Respiratory, STD’s, Cholera
Ciprofloxacin or Cephalexin -covers skin, urinary and respiratory
Metronidazole -Anaerobic bacteria, protozoal infections, bacterial vaginosis, intra-abdominal infections
Clindamycin -serious bacterial infections of the respiratory tract, skin and soft tissue, pelvis, and abdomen, some bone and joint infections
Ketoconazole -Fungal infections of the skin, hair and mucous membranes, Persistent fungal infections of the vagina, fungal infections of the mouth, throat and stomach, intestines or other internal organs
Augmentin -Lower Respiratory Tract Infections,Otitis Media, Sinusitis, Skin and Skin Structure Infections, Urinary Tract Infections
Azithromycin -mild to moderate skin infections; upper and lower respiratory tract infections, including pharyngitis (strep throat), tonsillitis, sinus infections, pneumonia; sexually transmitted infections of the cervix or urinary tract and genital ulcer disease in men.
Bactrim DS -Sulfa-based drug sometimes an alternative for people allergic to PCN
Amoxicillin -another form of PCN
Ivermectin -parasites and several virus's ... yup

OTC meds
Cough and cold meds
Tylenol
Advil
Naprosyn/Alleve
Allegra, Benadryl, Zyrtec or other antihistamine. Let's talk about this one. You have someone with allergies at you LP/OP on the night shift, who is sneezing. Which antihistamine do you give? Benadryl or Allegra? Think about it and comment.
Flonase
anti-diarrheal -this is important
stool softener -ever been constipated? Not fun!

Creams/Lotions and ointments:
Sunscreen
Bug spray/lotion
Hydrocortisone 1%
moisturizing lotions (non-fragrance)
anti-fungal creams
first aid creams...I prefer Polysporin but there is Neosporin and bacitracin. Neomycin, which is the main ingredient in Neosporin was the allergen of the year a few years back, and I have seen many people that used it for years and developed an allergy to it. That is why I prefer Polysporin or bacitracin, not Neosporin or triple antibiotic cream (generic to Neosporin)

So, just a few simple thoughts. Hope this helps.

[Modern Minuteman]

Jan 4, 2024 9:59:16 GMT -5 Patriotic Sheepdog said:

Allegra, Benadryl, Zyrtec or other antihistamine. Let's talk about this one. You have someone with allergies at you LP/OP on the night shift, who is sneezing. Which antihistamine do you give? Benadryl or Allegra? Think about it and comment.

This is a big one for me... I use to do Benadryl because it was the most effective to control allergies but it knocks me out. Like deep sleep knockout. This is not an ideal side effect if out in the field when you need to maintain some sort of alertness. Even when sleeping you normally have some sort of noise/movement alertness, not with Benadryl. So I replaced it with Claritin and no longer experience this issue...

[Hawkeye]

Jan 4, 2024 11:40:20 GMT -5 Modern Minuteman said:

Jan 4, 2024 9:59:16 GMT -5 Patriotic Sheepdog said:

Allegra, Benadryl, Zyrtec or other antihistamine. Let's talk about this one. You have someone with allergies at you LP/OP on the night shift, who is sneezing. Which antihistamine do you give? Benadryl or Allegra? Think about it and comment.

This is a big one for me... I use to do Benadryl because it was the most effective to control allergies but it knocks me out. Like deep sleep knockout. This is not an ideal side effect if out in the field when you need to maintain some sort of alertness. Even when sleeping you normally have some sort of noise/movement alertness, not with Benadryl. So I replaced it with Claritin and no longer experience this issue...

And that is a perfect example of having good info now vs after the fact. Meds can sometimes vary in their effectiveness/side effects from person to person. Benadryl has a very very mild affect on me. I get a moderate amount of antihistamine effect, and if I lay down and try to go to sleep it will sometimes help me dose off, but it doesn't keep me asleep and certainly doesn't knock me into a deep sleep. I envy you. LoL.

[Dave R]

Now that the FDA has put an end to being able to buy Fish and Bird antibiotics the only alternative I know of unless you have a cool Dr. is Jase Medical which will supposedly run you $300+ per person.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Jan 4, 2024 20:55:39 GMT -5 Dave R said:

Now that the FDA has put an end to being able to buy Fish and Bird antibiotics the only alternative I know of unless you have a cool Dr. is Jase Medical which will supposedly run you $300+ per person.

May look at shtfsource.com

Last time I spoke to him he had things in stock...

[Dave R]

Thanks. Going to pick up some azithromycin for my fishes.

[zombiemedic]

I would add Moxifloxacin 400mg especially for a combat pill pack.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Agree, it would be a good one to have, it is just a bit harder to find in the fish world of abx. There are many I could add into the mix, but tried to keep it to a few common ones that are easier to come by.

There are so many meds out there that could be used. If you find one or someone gives you something, do not just say, "well its not on PSD's list". Do your research and pack it away while you can.

[deltalima69]

I should txt you psd what I just went thru this fall. Lol
What never bothered me..turns me into a zombie skin wise lol

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Txt away dude, you got my number. I have a household full of fam, with two more expected tomorrow, so I may not get back to you right away. Let's touch base and catch up.

[deltalima69]

Jan 7, 2024 8:19:03 GMT -5 Patriotic Sheepdog said:

Txt away dude, you got my number. I have a household full of fam, with two more expected tomorrow, so I may not get back to you right away. Let's touch base and catch up.

Will do.

[zombiemedic]

I was looking at some M81 Malice packs and the DZ rig and some other stuff over the past few weeks and last night one of the guys in my group texted me. He was wondering if I had any cipro for his upper resp. infection until he could get to his doctor's office. After explaining that Cipro was more for aspiration and pneumonia and he needed augmentin (ammox-clav) I realized that after putting off buying antibiotics for years and especially with the FDA cracking down on suppliers I needed to remedy that.  I have packs and I have web gear but no antibiotics.  I spent 600$ on remedying that, including another 50 of 400mg of Moxifloxacin. I mainly have those for the "combat pill pack". I'm seriously looking at myself and all the guys in the group getting the larger of the JASE case for their families. Yes it is expensive but part of being a prepper is spending money on non cool stuff.

PS, please forgive my horrible rambling at this point from lack of sleep. 

[Hawkeye]

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