Escalation in Syria?

[SurvivorMetalMan]

Your thoughts on the escalation in Syria

[judomayhem]

Too soon to tell.

But keep in mind that Bannon and Trump are masters at 4D chess.

Friends of mine with DECADES in the Intel community (guys whose work Bannon studied back in the 90's) suspect it may be that forcing Assad to abdicate will temporarily appease globalists, while replacing him with someone Putin approves of will further our much needed alliance with Russia.

Bannon's gameplan appears to be:

A) Defeat the Islamists with Putin's help

B) Begin trading and partnering with Russia

C) Dismantle the FED/IMF and restart fresh with a joint Russian/American financial system.


Of course, our assessment may be wrong to one extent or another. And even if it is accurate, Trump/Bannon may not be successful.


Pray.

[whitebear620]

You're much more optimistic than I am. Tomorrow has it that Russians were on the base that was hit, I don't think the Russians would take that lightly. Been praying all night.

[Spinebuster]

The reason I have survived as long as I have is that I tend to not underestimate my enemies. Well, after Trump launching Tomahawk missiles at Syria last night I realize that I have vastly underestimated the Left and I apologize for ever having done so.

I never believed the allegations that the Russians were responsible for the DNC leaks because it never made sense to me. What would they have to gain from Trump winning over Hillary? Did they want an unpredictable guy who only understands politics from a boardroom winner take all perspective instead of the person that they had already given millions of dollars to through their foundation, who they had dealt with as Secretary of State and knew how much they sucked at making deals? With that in mind I always assumed that the leak came from someone in the DNC that knew how Team Hill screwed Bernie and wanted her to lose the election and not some Russian hacker.

Now that Trump has been president and how the Left is just constantly sqwaking Russian Hacking every opportunity I just assumed that the sole reason for it was to make his election appear to be illegitimate. You know something they can rally the base with like the old Bush stole the 2000 election bit.

After last night I see there was something beyond just being a sore loser behind it. I had forgotten that the Left has hated Russia ever since they gave up the dream of a world Soviet in the 90s. When the Soviet Union cracked open and the world could see the fetid innards of a country infected by 70 plus years of socialism they hated them. The fall of the Soviet Union exposed the lie and they were more upset at the lie being exposed instead of the lie existing. Just like they were more upset that the DNC information was leaked and not that the information that was leaked was true. Russia has further gone on to be tough on Islamic terror and seems to have no problems brutally stomping on members of the Left’s newest darlings. In their eyes the Russians keep committing unpardonable sins over unpardonable sins and must be punished for it.

Trump had indicated that he wanted to work with the Russians when it comes to combating ISIS before the election. I am all for that as I felt that we have too long shouldered the burden for this job. I am also a bit tired of Russian and China wanting to pretend to be international players without having to pay the price that we do. I was pleased when Russia decided to expend their own blood and limited treasure by involving themselves in Syria. “Let them get their hands dirty for a bit,” I would say. Now I would have welcomed Trump working with Russia to help carry the load of fighting Islamic terrorism, but the Left cannot let that happen and while using the Russian hacking to handicap Trump at home it also made any attempt he would make to work with the Russians internationally a handicap as well. Every time he would engage them or work an agreement then they would hit the airwaves about him being Putin’s lapdog.

The attack on Syria last night showed me that Trump has fallen into the trap the Left has laid out. Instead of letting Syria be Russia’s problem or working with them on the problem he virtue signaled that Russia has no influence over him. Given the bipartisan support he received this morning I am fairly certain that this is the case. In the future it will be harder to work with Russia and now the left knows they can push Trump into a corner. Both the Russians and Trump have been punished and now that they know it can be done expect it to never end.

[Hawkeye]

Spinebuster makes some good points. I think this is a very precarious situation, with fine lines that will have to be tread quite carefully. As I said in a recent video, do not let your guard down. Keep preparing, and if anything, bump things up a bit.

One "accident" and we could very easily find ourselves in a shooting war with Russia. Do not forget, we have Rangers, Airborne, and Marines on the ground in/around Syria right now.

[omnivorous]

The whole thing stinks like garbage on a sunny day.

[SurvivorMetalMan]

One thing I think we can all agree on, the last president, made a bigger and more dangerous mess in the whole region. His weakness and favoritism to the radicals by treating them with kid gloves, makes the whole thing a more volatile situation. And one is for sure, is Killary, would've continued down the same path.

[whitebear620]

Apr 8, 2017 0:32:02 GMT -5 SurvivorMetalMan said:

One thing I think we can all agree on, the last president, made a bigger and more dangerous mess in the whole region. His weakness and favoritism to the radicals by treating them with kid gloves, makes the whole thing a more volatile situation. And one is for sure, is Killary, would've continued down the same path.

I think all of us here would agree with that. However, the problem is that most of us were happy with Trump because he wasn't supposed to be doing what it appears that h is doing.

[omnivorous]

There is scant evidence linking Assad-loyal forces to this incident. Ok, there was a plane flown from the airbase which was later struck, which flew over the are which was later affected by the gas, but is there anything showin that aircraft deployed the chemical weapons? Maybe it was just a reconnaissance flight, maybe it was a a conventional bombing run which hit a cache which the rebels were hiding, maybe the rebels mishandled a cache & caused a leak, like in 2013? Maybe it was a rogue commanding office who said eff'em do it anyway, like what was a constant concern towards the end of the Cold War?

The Assad regime does not benefit at all from using chemical weapons, they lose the international credibility as the proper leadership. Not to mention, with outside help, it had been able to regain lost territory through conventional means.

It seems almost as if this is just political theater to impress the Chinese & influence the North Koreans, more than any effort to check the Assad regime.

Not to mention, didn't high-ranking officials in both the Russian & US governments tell the public the Assad regime no longer had chemical weapons, as a result of their oh so deft diplomatic efforts?

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Omni, Susan Rice told us that the Assad regime had turned over all their chemical weapons....so, was she lying? If so was she lying when she said Iran could be trusted that they are not building a nuke?

[omnivorous]

Apr 11, 2017 14:33:17 GMT -5 Patriotic Sheepdog said:

Omni, Susan Rice told us that the Assad regime had turned over all their chemical weapons....so, was she lying? If so was she lying when she said Iran could be trusted that they are not building a nuke?

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