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Post by whitebear620 on Mar 16, 2017 18:35:01 GMT -5
What do you guys think about lasers on pistols? Thinking about adding a laser to my EDC pistol. Wondering if it'll help with one handed firing (one hand either injured or bust pushing my family to safety), low light shooting, or maybe make me faster. Problems are that I would have another thing to check batteries on (not a huge deal), have to get new holsters, would have to train two methods of shooting my pistol now (sights and laser). Edit: Laserlyte also has a laser training system to make dryfire practice more entertaining and possibly effective. www.laserlyte.com/collections/lts |
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Post by omnivorous on Mar 17, 2017 14:41:52 GMT -5
I'm not sold on a laser mounted on an edc pistol. I'd much prefer a light of some kind, as I have a tlr-1 on mine. Visible lasers only make sense to me, if they're in a DBAL, for sighting-in your IR laser in the daylight on a rifle. James Yeager, of all people, made what seemed to be a good philosphy of use video, to me at least, of pistol mounted lasers. There would seem to be a legitimate supplemental role for a pistol mounted laser, but only if needed by particular curcumstances.
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Post by whitebear620 on Mar 17, 2017 15:01:59 GMT -5
Watched that video today and a couple of others for research. Not a huge James Yeager fan, but he sometimes makes good points.
How he said to use it is pretty much what I was thinking about. Not as a replacement for my sights, just in addition to.
I'd honestly just spring for an Inforce APL, but my pistol doesn't have a rail unfortunately. The pistol laser I'm looking at mounts to the frame.
Edit: A lot of my thinking lately has to do with my first child on the way. So now I constantly think about getting my gear better set up. Lighter and streamlined to not weigh me do down. Easier one handed use with either hand in case I'm running and carrying/pushing them.
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on Mar 20, 2017 10:07:42 GMT -5
I didn't like the laser that I got for my G19. Seems like I was too busy watching the beam bounce around with even the smallest movement. I have gone with a rmr mounted on my G19 and love the set up.
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Post by trailrunner909 on Mar 20, 2017 10:52:23 GMT -5
I didn't like the laser that I got for my G19. Seems like I was too busy watching the beam bounce around with even the smallest movement. I have gone with a rmr mounted on my G19 and love the set up. This is the way to go. There is a learning curve with it like anything, but the minimal nature of the rmr makes it feel like you are just seeing a dot superimposed on the target. |
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Post by whitebear620 on Mar 20, 2017 15:03:40 GMT -5
Well, I ruled out the Laserlyte ones for my pistol for carry. Turns out the thing is not waterproof at all, which for me and daily carry things is a no go. They said it should be fine for a light rain, but I don't want to have to worry about my $100 laser just being ruined because a family member or friends decided to joke around and throw me in the water at pool/beach. www.armalaser.com/Have a question into Armalaser about whether or not their stuff is waterproof, but I'm doubting it. I didn't see it listed anywhere on their website and that's usually something that's immediately mentioned in product details. That and they won't work with gloves without putting a special pad on your gloves, but that's not a deal breaker for me as I rarely wear gloves and only currently have one pair of shooting gloves. My dream set up would be something like an M&P 9C, with the RMR, with an Inforce APL. Small enough for my daily carry in the appendix position, but with a heck of a lot of capabilities. For now I just have my SCCY that I was looking to improve. Rapidly approaching the point of: this money would be better spent on training, ammo, and mags though... |
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Post by waffenmacht on Mar 24, 2017 10:19:12 GMT -5
All I can say is, I NEVER see them used in any training classes by experienced shooters or instructors.
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Post by panzer0170 on Mar 24, 2017 13:02:09 GMT -5
The only reason I can see as a semi-valid reason for having a (visible) laser on a handgun is for something like daytime dry practise of clearing XYZ whilst getting used to looking for a dot and not sights.
I don't know if this is even a done thing, but that's about the only reason I can come up with. Even the SIRT pistols have the option to get rid of the dot so you don't get hooked up on looking for light when dry practising with them.
That, or for people who cannot line up behind a sight picture for whatever reason (going to assume neck issues, arm issues (cross eye/arm stuff) and basically other medical problems.)
Question; What advantage are you expecting it to confer?
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Post by protus on Mar 25, 2017 6:07:17 GMT -5
Don't use one. Won't.
I have a mounted light for my 17.
But I don't leave it on it.
Basically.
I'm a cheap ads.
Dont care to buy new holsters...blah blah blah.
It uses the same batteries as my surefire so...if I need it..ill snap it on. If not. Ill run it with out it and use my flash light...
But that's just me. I'm a KISS kinda guy...you seen my set up...it's no thrills..but works...
I don't over look technology at all. I just use what's mission dictated vs what's cool...I guess. Ymmv.
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Post by whitebear620 on Mar 25, 2017 16:43:30 GMT -5
The only reason I can see as a semi-valid reason for having a (visible) laser on a handgun is for something like daytime dry practise of clearing XYZ whilst getting used to looking for a dot and not sights. I don't know if this is even a done thing, but that's about the only reason I can come up with. Even the SIRT pistols have the option to get rid of the dot so you don't get hooked up on looking for light when dry practising with them. That, or for people who cannot line up behind a sight picture for whatever reason (going to assume neck issues, arm issues (cross eye/arm stuff) and basically other medical problems.) Question; What advantage are you expecting it to confer? Primarily hoping it would help with one handed shooting (injured/one hand pushing loved one to cover) or night time shooting. Honestly, the non waterproofing really really kills it for me. Armalaser got back to me and said it was water resistant, not water proof. I live in FL where we can get absolutely poured on, and I generally don't worry too much about getting wet unless I'm heading into work, everything I EDC is waterproof; phone, watch, flashlight, ect. I may look into that Laserlyte just for training purposes, laser goes on for dryfire session to use with their laser targets in training mode, comes off after practice. Edit: Protus, I like to keep my thing Kiss if I can. But if I could gain a significant advantage from a new thing without a huge drawback, I'll take it. With the thing not being waterproof, it's not very KISS to me. |
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