Bugging out.....

[Hawkeye]

[Dave R]

In just 0:45 seconds, you convinced me to never live in Florida, and probably never travel there haha.

[UnforseenWeather]

Good vid! Not enough people consider the ramifications of bugging out... leaving your base of ops where odds are the majority of your supplies are.

[protus]

Gear vs reality.
Reality is many cant carry their bags far. Add in stuff...like..ohhh... august heat here. It wont take 14+ days for a die off lol .

Also. The concept that some cough experts cough have that maintain that you cant live at your BOL. The truth is 98% of us are. Because as you pointed out out. It would need to be such a catastrophic event that renders your current place un livable. Add in the fact that most do not have a secondary location that is sustainable. Add physcial and security limitations...it drags on more.
Getting home is key. Imho.
I already bugged out lol by moving out of the urban sprawl. But in turn my get home is now 40 miles. Thats 4-8 days of travel (staying low pro and getting tbere ).

Gotta run to work ill add more later and finish the vid. Your hitting good points.

And aint the last five days been nice !!! Lol

[panzer0170]

Bugging out is valid, location dependant. If you live in California (for example) and the fault pulls your house down along with your families and you are at work, or on the way home, it has the ability to get out of dodge. That might be to a shelter, where you will now have some comforts. Bugging out is the travelling part. My main issue with most peoples consideration of bugging out is that they have nowhere to go *TO*.

BoB's should, realistically, but something that you use regularly. Hiking gear you can actually use, as well as some supplies. Bags that are packed and stay there? Useless. I have a bag that I could pick up, and (with the addition of some food) I could use to bug out. It's really just my bag that I hike with, with the tools I use to do the same task. It's neither cost effective nor smart to have a totally seperate bag.

[hudson5969]

Great vid.

I had this discussion many time with people. They laugh because I have to drive 20 minutes to get to a gas station, half an hour to get to a store, and 45 minutes to get to work. But the kind of place they talk about "someday getting some land" is where I live. Got water, septic (when the lights go off, hang the solar panel on the anchors and it's enough to power some fans, refer, well and septic pump), all my stuff. It's off the beaten path. Myself and all my neighbors but one have lived here 15 years or more, so we know who belongs and who doesn't. Lake nearby, woods, woods and more woods. Keeping chickens, goats and pigs are commonplace, plenty of room to grow food, and most already do. No rail or major highways nearby, so the whole "chemical spill" scenario is unlikely. Already survived a direct Cat 4 hit.

So, the only thing I can really see calling for a bugout would be fire. At that point, it has to be a vehicular bugout. I don't care who you are, you're not getting away from a wild fire on foot. There you have the luxury of the fact that it's a limited area, so you just have to make it out of the affected area, and you can buy more clothes, food, whatever.

Another point I make, that I'm glad you addressed is the lockdown scenario. Look at the manpower it took in Iraq to lockdown cities like Fallujah, and still people got in and out all the time. If it's a nationwide catastrophe, they will spend the manpower to lock down the capitol, probably NYC because it's the major banking center, the refineries, and a few major ports. They'll be stretched thin to do that. They aren't going to lock down Podunk, USA.

Panzer makes a good point about gear. My bug out bag is my camping gear.

[panzer0170]

hudson5969 Your point about Fallujah;

It was once explained to me that to take down our camp (not based on manpower, based on the buildings in it, and the size, which was TINY, really.) that it'd take at least a Bn of soldiers to clear through it, with heavy expected losses (assuming a remotely competent EF).

Now granted getting through it yourself, sneakily ups your odds... But fuck ever having to try it!

Good points all round.

[protus]

Yip. Hudson same here.. 40 miles to work 35 to any big chain stores.
Gas is up the road..no street lights and its 2.5 miles from end to end and sub 3k population on a good day.
It aint perfect but screw that city noise. Now its get home vs bug out.