Post by Hawkeye on Nov 28, 2011 10:54:49 GMT -5
Just wanted to give a little update here. I think at this point, I can safely say that of the current BDU's and camo patterns that are on the market (that are in my range of affordability), the Tru-Spec Pro-G's in their Digital Woodland are my #1 choice. There are a couple of reasons that these are my current favorite, but, before I hit those, there is something I wanted tomake note of. In the past, I have had less than good results with Tru-Spec apparel. I've ran into issues ranging from poor construction quality, to weird sizing issues and serious fading issues. I had all but sworn off Tru-Spec. Then, after I had decided to really start seriously evaluating some different BDU's, to find the best that I could for my purpouses and in my realm of affordability, along comes the Pro-G line. I was very close to settling on Propper's as my BDU of choice. They were in my price range, had good material and construction, and the sizing was right. The biggest issue I had, and honestly the only issue I have with them still, is the design. I really dont like the extensive use of velcro in place of buttons on them. As I said though, in my ongoing search of BDU's, I wanted to make sure I hadnt overlooked anything that might be a possible viable option. I spotted the Tru-Specs and noticed that these particular ones were under a new line, and there appeared to be some changes to them over previous offerings. So, after reading some posts around the net, and seeing some favorable comments about Tru-Spec in general, it appeared that they might had possibly upped their game. I decided to go ahead and give them a chance, and ordered a set of the Pro-G's in their Digital Woodland.
Now, if you've watched the video's I've put up in this thread, you'll remember that my favorite design, is the Marine current issue BDU's. Absolutely brilliant in my opinion. Thats part of what attracted me to the Pro-G's. They seemed to very closely follow the Marine BDU with a few minor differences. When I got them in, I was pleseantly surprised. Not only was the construction far better than what I had experience with Tru-Spec in the past, but the sizing was spot on as well. I was very excited about these, but still cautious. Some initial use showed them to be holding up well from both a construction standpoint as well as a fading standpoint. Concerned that it may just be a fluke, I orderd another set a couple of months later. Same deal. Everything was good to go. So, I decided to make absolutely sure and wait a number of months, and keep using the ones I had, and let some time pass before ordering some more, just to see if things stayed consistent. I recently did that, and I am happy to say that the most recent ones I got, are as good if not better than the earlier ones. I even find myself liking the color pallet of these slightly better than the actual Marine issue ones, as the coyote brown is a bit more prominent, as is the small tan areas. To me, it really gives a great amount of depth, even more so than the MARPAT. The 65/35 Poly/Cotton material they use is holding up very well, and seems to not only be a fairly durable material, but is also resisting fading as good as I have ever seen. I just about cant tell the different between the ones I've worn and washed many times, over the new ones I recently got in. The biggest difference in them is the feel of the material. They are little "stiff" when new, but soften up pretty nicely with some washing and wearing.
There are only 4 things that would make these even better to/for me. First, I'd like to see the old style waist adjustment tabs swapped out for elastic in the waistband like the Marine BDU's. Second, I'd like to see the knee reinforcment area's lowered a bit, so that it covers the knee more when bending and such and the pants legs naturally rise up some. Third, I'd like to see the addition of a 50/50 NYCO material option as a summer weight BDU. Fourth, I'd like to see them offered in a solid Coyote color like their TRU line is.
Other than those 4 wishes, these are about as perfect for me as I can find right now. If they were to do that, and maybe add Multicam as an option along with their current Digital Woodland and Digital Desert options, and keep the price points where they are, I think Tru-Spec could seriously eat up some market. One last thing. I know some of you are bothered by the fact that many companies items, such as Propper, have that Made in China label on them. As I stated above, I like to buy US made stuff when I can and really prefer it, but as long as its a good product, I dont have too big of a problem with the China label. If it really matters to you more than that, the Tru-Spec Pro-G's are assembled in Honduras with US made materials.
Now, if you've watched the video's I've put up in this thread, you'll remember that my favorite design, is the Marine current issue BDU's. Absolutely brilliant in my opinion. Thats part of what attracted me to the Pro-G's. They seemed to very closely follow the Marine BDU with a few minor differences. When I got them in, I was pleseantly surprised. Not only was the construction far better than what I had experience with Tru-Spec in the past, but the sizing was spot on as well. I was very excited about these, but still cautious. Some initial use showed them to be holding up well from both a construction standpoint as well as a fading standpoint. Concerned that it may just be a fluke, I orderd another set a couple of months later. Same deal. Everything was good to go. So, I decided to make absolutely sure and wait a number of months, and keep using the ones I had, and let some time pass before ordering some more, just to see if things stayed consistent. I recently did that, and I am happy to say that the most recent ones I got, are as good if not better than the earlier ones. I even find myself liking the color pallet of these slightly better than the actual Marine issue ones, as the coyote brown is a bit more prominent, as is the small tan areas. To me, it really gives a great amount of depth, even more so than the MARPAT. The 65/35 Poly/Cotton material they use is holding up very well, and seems to not only be a fairly durable material, but is also resisting fading as good as I have ever seen. I just about cant tell the different between the ones I've worn and washed many times, over the new ones I recently got in. The biggest difference in them is the feel of the material. They are little "stiff" when new, but soften up pretty nicely with some washing and wearing.
There are only 4 things that would make these even better to/for me. First, I'd like to see the old style waist adjustment tabs swapped out for elastic in the waistband like the Marine BDU's. Second, I'd like to see the knee reinforcment area's lowered a bit, so that it covers the knee more when bending and such and the pants legs naturally rise up some. Third, I'd like to see the addition of a 50/50 NYCO material option as a summer weight BDU. Fourth, I'd like to see them offered in a solid Coyote color like their TRU line is.
Other than those 4 wishes, these are about as perfect for me as I can find right now. If they were to do that, and maybe add Multicam as an option along with their current Digital Woodland and Digital Desert options, and keep the price points where they are, I think Tru-Spec could seriously eat up some market. One last thing. I know some of you are bothered by the fact that many companies items, such as Propper, have that Made in China label on them. As I stated above, I like to buy US made stuff when I can and really prefer it, but as long as its a good product, I dont have too big of a problem with the China label. If it really matters to you more than that, the Tru-Spec Pro-G's are assembled in Honduras with US made materials.