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Post by Hawkeye on May 18, 2015 9:11:06 GMT -5
I wanted this section to be a place where we could discuss anything and everything related to things like Bushcraft, camping, outdoor/wilderness survival skills, related equipment and gear, etc....
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Post by winter on May 18, 2015 13:35:51 GMT -5
Cool. I subscribe to the "the more you know, the less you have to carry." principle.
The original "lightfighter" concept was to use bushcraft/wilderness survival skills to allow soldiers to sustain themselves for long periods of time with, what we would now call, a 3 day or assault pack.
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Post by Patriotic Sheepdog on May 18, 2015 19:28:58 GMT -5
Cool. I subscribe to the "the more you know, the less you have to carry." principle. The original "lightfighter" concept was to use bushcraft/wilderness survival skills to allow soldiers to sustain themselves for long periods of time with, what we would now call, a 3 day or assault pack. Bingo....I truly believe in this principle. I'm one that will bring a lighter, but know how to make fire with a ferro rod, or bring a tent but can set up my poncho if needed. It holds true to medical skills as well...a Halo Chest seal is good, but I can make do with a ziplock bag and tape. I am glad this forum is here now as I am always trying to improve my bushcraft/navigation skills. |
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Post by justanothergunnut on May 18, 2015 19:38:24 GMT -5
I'm seriously lazy right now but I would like to start a hammock vs ground thread. Maybe later. Lol.
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Post by winter on May 18, 2015 23:06:43 GMT -5
I don't see how an elevated bed can be justified in a shooting environment. Bushcraft, sure, why the fuck not.
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Post by waffenmacht on May 19, 2015 7:18:37 GMT -5
I've ran one in a slit trench...cadillac. I'm at the point that I choose a hammock over all other means of shelter. Bushcraft or shooting.
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Post by justanothergunnut on May 19, 2015 10:11:52 GMT -5
I don't see how an elevated bed can be justified in a shooting environment. Bushcraft, sure, why the fuck not. then I guess no further discussion is needed on the subject |
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Post by panzer0170 on May 19, 2015 10:56:56 GMT -5
I don't see how an elevated bed can be justified in a shooting environment. Bushcraft, sure, why the fuck not. Don't know anyone who has used any OTHER sleep method in a jungle, in a shooty environment. There are some very nice Asymmetrical ones with velcro bases that you can quite literally lean forward, stand up, and RUN out of your bed. I can get from one of those into a PROPER fighting position (Not fighting from a bloody dossbag) quicker than I can get to a proper fighting position from the ground. Again, somewhere swampy, I'd probably like to hang too. It's all about AO, really. I've got a hammock but I rarely use it in this country - Plenty of opportunity to ground dwell and less choice of trees. In MN in summer I like to be off the ground and in a bug net sealed. Hammocks also have a really nice setup between lamp posts, fence posts, or even vehicles, where there is no other support and the ground is honking. |
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Post by justanothergunnut on May 19, 2015 12:04:58 GMT -5
How about in Boulder outcroppings or forest with so much ground clutter there is not a space big enough to lay down in or using clamps or nuts on the side of a cliff or here's one that's outside the box. Flooded timber. I can think of DOZENS of places that NOTHING but a hammock will do.
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Post by winter on May 19, 2015 12:44:06 GMT -5
I don't see how an elevated bed can be justified in a shooting environment. Bushcraft, sure, why the fuck not. then I guess no further discussion is needed on the subject Hahahahha, there are other opinions. |
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Post by protus on May 19, 2015 13:28:38 GMT -5
I don't see how an elevated bed can be justified in a shooting environment. Bushcraft, sure, why the fuck not. Don't know anyone who has used any OTHER sleep method in a jungle, in a shooty environment. There are some very nice Asymmetrical ones with velcro bases that you can quite literally lean forward, stand up, and RUN out of your bed. I can get from one of those into a PROPER fighting position (Not fighting from a bloody dossbag) quicker than I can get to a proper fighting position from the ground. Again, somewhere swampy, I'd probably like to hang too. It's all about AO, really. I've got a hammock but I rarely use it in this country - Plenty of opportunity to ground dwell and less choice of trees. In MN in summer I like to be off the ground and in a bug net sealed. Hammocks also have a really nice setup between lamp posts, fence posts, or even vehicles, where there is no other support and the ground is honking. Each shelter set up has is applications ....and each user will swear their choice is better. Me ..from my tarp shelter (shooting environment) I could say wake up and fight from it. A hammock..unless you have a open bottom one (weight limits are normally 130lbs on the ones I looked at by hennesy) ..ain't happening... And a tent is pointless. But in a shooting environment are we really gonna be that far off our game? Even solo? I only camp in a tent when the wife /kid is with me ..and they've tarp sheltered with me before....tarps are mainstays in my kits.....hammocks not so much...but doesn't me I over look their usefulness. |
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Post by justanothergunnut on May 19, 2015 14:34:18 GMT -5
Custom hammocks go 300# use 7/64 amsteel cord for the suspension rig rated at 1600# and you can run those supension lines out a good distance
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Post by panzer0170 on May 19, 2015 15:04:08 GMT -5
Don't know anyone who has used any OTHER sleep method in a jungle, in a shooty environment. There are some very nice Asymmetrical ones with velcro bases that you can quite literally lean forward, stand up, and RUN out of your bed. I can get from one of those into a PROPER fighting position (Not fighting from a bloody dossbag) quicker than I can get to a proper fighting position from the ground. Again, somewhere swampy, I'd probably like to hang too. It's all about AO, really. I've got a hammock but I rarely use it in this country - Plenty of opportunity to ground dwell and less choice of trees. In MN in summer I like to be off the ground and in a bug net sealed. Hammocks also have a really nice setup between lamp posts, fence posts, or even vehicles, where there is no other support and the ground is honking. Each shelter set up has is applications ....and each user will swear their choice is better. Me ..from my tarp shelter (shooting environment) I could say wake up and fight from it. A hammock..unless you have a open bottom one (weight limits are normally 130lbs on the ones I looked at by hennesy) ..ain't happening... And a tent is pointless. But in a shooting environment are we really gonna be that far off our game? Even solo? I only camp in a tent when the wife /kid is with me ..and they've tarp sheltered with me before....tarps are mainstays in my kits.....hammocks not so much...but doesn't me I over look their usefulness. 130lbs? Pretty sure they're all up past 200; I checked because I got mine when I was fat and I was up around 220 and I have a few pounds 'spare' on their weight rating. |
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Post by protus on May 19, 2015 18:45:56 GMT -5
Each shelter set up has is applications ....and each user will swear their choice is better. Me ..from my tarp shelter (shooting environment) I could say wake up and fight from it. A hammock..unless you have a open bottom one (weight limits are normally 130lbs on the ones I looked at by hennesy) ..ain't happening... And a tent is pointless. But in a shooting environment are we really gonna be that far off our game? Even solo? I only camp in a tent when the wife /kid is with me ..and they've tarp sheltered with me before....tarps are mainstays in my kits.....hammocks not so much...but doesn't me I over look their usefulness. 130lbs? Pretty sure they're all up past 200; I checked because I got mine when I was fat and I was up around 220 and I have a few pounds 'spare' on their weight rating. Just going by the one I played with.it was velcrod about were your ass was ...basically stand up and your out...its been several years and well fabrics have gotten better. Only going by what I saw...nothing more... |
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Post by waffenmacht on May 20, 2015 7:23:12 GMT -5
Yeah, hammocks have many more options then the ones you are familiar with. I believe mine is rated at 300 lbs and I have no issues getting out of it and into the surrounding slit trench.
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