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Post by Erick on Apr 12, 2017 20:20:25 GMT -5
here is what I have in my pack for a 3-4 day Patrol assuming Spring or Fall (winter ups the snivel gear, high temps up the water)
- Tarp
- camoflage paracord
- Camnoflaged stakes
- 3 extra t shirts
- 3 extra underwear
- 5 extra pairs of socks
- 1 Extra uniform pants
- 1 extra uniform top
- sleeping bag, maybe i roll of insolting foam depending on weather.
- 3 MREs, (some say its not enough but I tend to minimize food as I ahve good internal reserves)
- 1 full camebak Bladder
- 3 bottles of gatorade
- 1 lifestraw
- 1 flashlight
- 1 Infantry Rifle w/ WML and eletrooptic and VFG, only spare part is an extractor and minimal spare batteries for light and optic
- 1 Field Knife
- Toothbrush/tootpaste
- 1 Basic Load of Ammo only, maybe plus 1 Mag
- Bug Spray (yes I know it can be a give away... but it allows me to focus better if I am not crawling with moskitobites.)
- Boonie Hat
- Sunglasses
- First Aid kit w/ Quickclot.
- ..a sweatshirt (seasonal) and/ camoed rainjacket and or heavy jacket (seasonal, 1 of them will likely be worn)
- 1 Pair Tac Gloves (worn)
For 2 day patrols weather depending the load will be cut significantly
For 1 day patrol no extra clothes, or extra anything, except spare socks
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Post by judomayhem on Apr 12, 2017 21:09:52 GMT -5
here is what I have in my pack for a 3-4 day Patrol assuming Spring or Fall (winter ups the snivel gear, high temps up the water) - Tarp - camoflage paracord - Camnoflaged stakes - 3 extra t shirts - 3 extra underwear - 5 extra pairs of socks - 1 Extra uniform pants - 1 extra uniform top - sleeping bag, maybe i roll of insolting foam depending on weather. - 3 MREs, (some say its not enough but I tend to minimize food as I ahve good internal reserves) - 1 full camebak Bladder - 3 bottles of gatorade - 1 lifestraw - 1 flashlight - 1 Infantry Rifle w/ WML and eletrooptic and VFG, only spare part is an extractor and minimal spare batteries for light and optic - 1 Field Knife - Toothbrush/tootpaste - 1 Basic Load of Ammo only, maybe plus 1 Mag - Bug Spray (yes I know it can be a give away... but it allows me to focus better if I am not crawling with moskitobites.) - Boonie Hat - Sunglasses - First Aid kit w/ Quickclot. - ..a sweatshirt (seasonal) and/ camoed rainjacket and or heavy jacket (seasonal, 1 of them will likely be worn) - 1 Pair Tac Gloves (worn) For 2 day patrols weather depending the load will be cut significantly For 1 day patrol no extra clothes, or extra anything, except spare socks Interesting. Mine is the same with the following exceptions: For anything a week or less there ain't gonna be any extra clothes other than socks. My general rule is one t-shirt per week, a pair of undies lasts about as long. And unless I'm rucking, socks last me three days. All of this is dependent on the use of powder, see below. -Extra batt for flashlight -Multitool with saw -Folding knife in sheath on belt (pocket clips fail in the field) -Foot powder -Gold Bond shnut powder -Baby wipes -Hand sanitizer -Toilet paper -Lightweight plastic garden trowel/shovel. |
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Post by Erick on Apr 12, 2017 21:28:21 GMT -5
I forgot the baby wipes..and toilet paper always carry those : )
Toilet paper in plastic bag so it doesnt get wet...
Am considered adding an e tool but have not decided yet as they weigh quite a bit considering I would use them mostly for burying waste..and everything adds up.
As for clothes.. My AO can be pretty rainy.. the extra clothes are mostly to make sure I dont get stuck sleeping in wet clothes which of course can be deadly...
Batteries.. I try to minimize them as much as possible since they are so heavy.. carries spares only for absolute key systems ( such as optics) and then only set of spares.. unless my batteries are fresh then no spares
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Post by judomayhem on Apr 16, 2017 1:41:40 GMT -5
I should mention I have a jumbo blow out kit and a more general first aid kit with me everywhere I go. I also carried a "medicine chest" one gallon Ziplock freezer bag when afield that had small vials of IBUPROFEN, Naproxen, the two prior mentioned powders, a 4x5 sheet of moleskin and medical tape in it. This ziplock would go in the side pouch of my ruck or the outside back pouch on my assault pack.
Our medic taught us that moleskin should be used as a preventive product; i.e. tape some on first thing in the a.m. BEFORE you need it.
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Post by DBD on Jan 11, 2024 11:55:00 GMT -5
I’ve gone through the entire thread, and I think some people have a different view on what a patrol pack is. I’m going to share my list for a patrol pack, which I consider to be a much smaller load than what I would categorize as a field ruck.
My definition of a “patrol” might be different from yours, and that’s perfectly valid. But if I was to do a long range reconnaissance or be relegated to setting up a forward observation post, I’d be carrying a lot more than I would for a 24-48 hour patrol.
Patrol Pack List
- (2) spare loaded rifle magazines
- Poncho (w/ cordage to improvise shelter)
- Lightweight bivy
- Extra canteen, cup, and purification tabs
- (1) spare BF UV5R radio battery and
- (2) spare Midland walkie batteries
- Miscellaneous batteries for lights, optics, NOD
- Maps, map compass, protractor, pens, notepad
- Rangefinding observation optic
- (2) MRE entrees
- Windproof outer shell jacket
- Spare socks
- Band-aid / ouch kit
- PVS-14 in protective pouch
That’s it. That’s the list. I’m not digging in on a patrol. I’m not camping. I’m not taking a field shower. I’m not cooking dinner. I’m patrolling. Find something and SALUTE or find nothing and RTB. I’m moving with a reasonable degree of stealth and maximizing my awareness. That’s very hard to do if you’re overloaded.
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Post by Modern Minuteman on Jan 11, 2024 12:38:11 GMT -5
I’ve gone through the entire thread, and I think some people have a different view on what a patrol pack is. I’m going to share my list for a patrol pack, which I consider to be a much smaller load than what I would categorize as a field ruck. My definition of a “patrol” might be different from yours, and that’s perfectly valid. But if I was to do a long range reconnaissance or be relegated to setting up a forward observation post, I’d be carrying a lot more than I would for a 24-48 hour patrol. Patrol Pack List - (2) spare loaded rifle magazines - Poncho (w/ cordage to improvise shelter) - Lightweight bivy - Extra canteen, cup, and purification tabs - (1) spare BF UV5R radio battery and - (2) spare Midland walkie batteries - Miscellaneous batteries for lights, optics, NOD - Maps, map compass, protractor, pens, notepad - Rangefinding observation optic - (2) MRE entrees - Windproof outer shell jacket - Spare socks - Band-aid / ouch kit - PVS-14 in protective pouch That’s it. That’s the list. I’m not digging in on a patrol. I’m not camping. I’m not taking a field shower. I’m not cooking dinner. I’m patrolling. Find something and SALUTE or find nothing and RTB. I’m moving with a reasonable degree of stealth and maximizing my awareness. That’s very hard to do if you’re overloaded. This^^^ From interacting with a lot of folks it does seem as though there is a disconnect (and really a pure misunderstanding) of the separation of what a patrol ,and remain overnight, actually entails versus going camping with a buddy. What's the saying, mission dictates gear... You carry exactly what is needed to complete the objective. Once folks can solidify their base patrol kit, then in reality, the only difference between a 24 hour patrol or a 3-4 day patrol is going to be sustainment (food, sleep kit based on weather, hygiene) and mission specific kit (like observation gear, OP building items/tools, camo kit like a ghillie hood, etc...) and really any other environmental needs. |
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Post by LOPACTUAL on Jan 19, 2024 23:26:07 GMT -5
Yup. I concure with the above, we aren't out camping.
I'll introduce an idea here that I haven't seen stated.
The above responses mostly indicated a rural or otherwise wilderness operating area. How many ppl is that going to apply to?
What about considerations for urban or suburban folks?
One of my current patrol/recon packs is light...very light and low viz. Nothing I'll do in town will be overt or have a projection of force.
Map kit
Note pad
Compass
Mechanical ranging device (no laser)
Flashlight & headlamp, chemlight green & IR
Batts for everything
Nvg
Binos
Drone
Radio
Blind kit
Pistol
Fixed blade
Slick PC
Water
Snacks
Boo boo & bleed kit
Tool roll
Zyn
Vertx low viz plain Jane backpack
Neutral colored civvies, Solomons.
Up-level add-on:
Remove pistol
11.5
8 mags
Bandoleer
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Post by DBD on Jan 20, 2024 5:13:07 GMT -5
Yup. I concure with the above, we aren't out camping. I'll introduce an idea here that I haven't seen stated. The above responses mostly indicated a rural or otherwise wilderness operating area. How many ppl is that going to apply to? What about considerations for urban or suburban folks? One of my current patrol/recon packs is light...very light and low viz. Nothing I'll do in town will be overt or have a projection of force. I agree that “patrolling” in densely populated or even mostly abandoned developed areas would require a totally different mindset. The primary issue being that there is a far greater risk that you cannot patrol without your movements being observed by some vantage point. So how do you maneuver in SHTF without projecting force, but still be equipped to mitigate a threat or complete whatever ill-advised mission you’re tasked with that involves wandering through a built-up area crowded with rooftops, windows, and doors? Sadly, there is no good answer. The gray man fallacy is dangerous. If you don’t know what you’re walking into, the last place you want to walk is into an urban environment. If you don’t appear dangerous to others, then you may be labeled a potential victim. Any pack you carry is likely to be considered attractive loot for an armed band of would-be pirates or desperate survivors who have already burned through their limited urban preps. Anyone you can’t see might end up becoming a threat. If you walked in with no enemies, just being there might make you and your friends a new enemy that you didn’t want. It’s a very risky undertaking. I realize that some people are stuck with the situation they’re in. But I still maintain what I’ve said many times. If we collapse into WROL, urban areas (especially ones that are already dangerous) will only become more dangerous once the thin veneer of civility is peeled away. Get away and stay away from it by any means necessary. |
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