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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 8, 2015 11:52:05 GMT -5
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winter
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Post by winter on Sept 8, 2015 16:09:50 GMT -5
It's really dark.
While the colors are an exact match for the colors behind you, I think the fabric just reflects indirect light in a different way, or not at all, than actual foliage.
Foliage always seem to have a yellowish "glow".
Take care of your back. Really.
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 8, 2015 17:32:54 GMT -5
Maybe through a camera. The important thing here is that cameras collect light differently to your eye. This is the case with ALL colours. I've said it before and I'll say it again; Between the CCD on your camera, encoding, and redisplay on your (uncalibrated, I can pretty much promise you) monitor, what you see in these videos is NOT what your eye will see. Generally, if things work on video they work with the naked eye. If they DON'T work on video, they still have a fair chance of working well against the eye. Cameras, in fact, may work well as a detection method in concert with the Mk1 Eyeball, because of their ability to pick up images differently (not necessarily better or worse) and display them with exaggerations etc to. I'm not saying that anything winter has said is wrong - But I'd need to see this in real life to make a judgement versus what is seen here in the video.
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 8, 2015 21:55:36 GMT -5
Panzer is correct. The only point I'll add and reiterate is, based on my experimentations, what works on video usually works even better to the naked eye. That is, unless your like me and have a slight red-green color perception problem with your eyes and man made dyes/materials stand out to you, often significantly, vs natural flora. Not that I ever took advantage of that or anything.......
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Post by omnivorous on Sept 9, 2015 2:31:40 GMT -5
I really like the jump cuts when you changed positions, while you were walking around the mosquito hatchery.
I think Multicam Tropic is a very good Summertime pattern, and Multicam classic as a good Wintertime pattern down far enough South where it doesn't snow. I think I would have Multicam classic gear, and change out just the uniform for the time of year.
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Post by waffenmacht on Sept 10, 2015 10:12:38 GMT -5
Omni, that is an excellent idea.
I've done the same thing here, but using ATACS AU in the winter, FG in the summer.
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Post by panzer0170 on Sept 10, 2015 20:32:02 GMT -5
I really like the jump cuts when you changed positions, while you were walking around the mosquito hatchery. I think Multicam Tropic is a very good Summertime pattern, and Multicam classic as a good Wintertime pattern down far enough South where it doesn't snow. I think I would have Multicam classic gear, and change out just the uniform for the time of year. why not classic year round?
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Post by protus on Sept 11, 2015 5:28:03 GMT -5
The tropic test bed i have i washed...few times and it got duller. Not as bright green . It works pretty well imho.
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The pattern on mc is small. So. Zero to say 20 yards etc its great. The farther out you are the more solid it gets. Its a balance. But imho if the enlarged the pattern say similar in size to the old woodland its do well /better at distance.
That said normal mc will work year round here...i think marpat is better...and tropic is awesome in the areas near me that make hawkeyes test area look dry.so thats why woodland and now tropic caught my eye.
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Post by omnivorous on Sept 11, 2015 15:04:58 GMT -5
I really like the jump cuts when you changed positions, while you were walking around the mosquito hatchery. I think Multicam Tropic is a very good Summertime pattern, and Multicam classic as a good Wintertime pattern down far enough South where it doesn't snow. I think I would have Multicam classic gear, and change out just the uniform for the time of year. why not classic year round? Because it figuratively monsoons so much during the late Spring/early Fall, my area may as well be as lush as a tropical rain forest. In the Winter, there are a few evergreen species of plants, but for the most part, the vegetation looses all of its leaves and turns brownish. So, Multicam classic would be perfect for that mid-Fall through mid-Spring, but the MC Tropic would be better for when the rainy season is in swing, from mid-Spring to mid-Fall. Crye Precision designed the patterns to work together, for transitional environments, thus Classic, Tropic, and Arid all have a couple tones in common with each other. The Multicam website, www.multicampattern.com, details this concept further. At first, I didn't buy the notion of one pattern which would work well in nearly every environment (it was admittedly only intended to just work across a spectrum), but now, with the whole "family" of patterns, using them in combination to tailor a camo scheme to a particular AO seems like a really solid concept.
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Post by hudson5969 on Sept 12, 2015 16:13:16 GMT -5
Not a lot of people realize how GREEN it is in the south during the rain season. We actually only have two seasons: Hot & Wet, and Cool & Dry.
In Rain season the green is too vibrant, and MC classic actually stands out pretty bad, at least in the vegetation around me. The only place it's any goo din Rain season is under the double canopy areas where not much grows under the trees, so it's mostly brown.
IMO I wouldn't bother with MC Arid. At least in the US. When I lived out west in the high desert, there was enough green that you'd blend right in with MC Classic. You'd have to go to Death Valley or something to find no green.
I don't have much use for MC Black, outside of looking cool. If I was making a Sci-Fi movie, the badasses would have Typhon gear over MC Black uniforms.
If you live where significant portions of the year are covered in Snow, the MC Alpine would be nice. So, for full-spectrum coverage, gear in MC Tropic for summer, Alpine for Winter and Classic for Spring and Fall, and you'd be set.
Ideally, I'd want a set of reversible uniforms (to include Gore-Tex) in MC Classic/Tropic. Gear I'd want in Kryptek Mandrake, as it has more green than MC CLassic, and more brown than MC Tropic and is in a disruptive pattern. It can also be had in 500D.
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Post by omnivorous on Sept 13, 2015 0:16:36 GMT -5
Multicam Black is pretty much intended for SWAT teams.
The reason why I'd want the Multicam Classic gear is, there's hardly any gear made in Multicam Tropic, and I can't afford multiple sets of everything.
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Post by waffenmacht on Sept 19, 2015 19:38:11 GMT -5
Multicam Black is pretty much intended for SWAT teams. The reason why I'd want the Multicam Classic gear is, there's hardly any gear made in Multicam Tropic, and I can't afford multiple sets of everything. There's nothing wrong with buying classic gear, and a running tropic uniform. Gear doesn't need to match, that's kindof why I run mostly green gear, and whatever camo pattern BDU that fits the season.
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Post by omnivorous on Sept 19, 2015 22:14:31 GMT -5
Mix-and-match camo patterns is very Russian operator, too.
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Post by protus on Sept 20, 2015 6:23:17 GMT -5
Multicam Black is pretty much intended for SWAT teams. The reason why I'd want the Multicam Classic gear is, there's hardly any gear made in Multicam Tropic, and I can't afford multiple sets of everything. There's nothing wrong with buying classic gear, and a running tropic uniform. Gear doesn't need to match, that's kindof why I run mostly green gear, and whatever camo pattern BDU that fits the season. Lmao if I put my kit on the gear queens would stroke out LOL Looks like a surplus store barred it all up after getting in a krylon huffing contest. Except for my uw rig...its one color still LOL
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Post by hudson5969 on Sept 24, 2015 11:40:10 GMT -5
Mix-and-match camo patterns is very Russian operator, too. They also don't have a problem with black gear. Since I still primarily run an AK, I just tell people I am doing a "Russian theme" -- whatever camo I happen to have with whatever gear I have at the moment, LOL. Really everyone does it. At the beginning of our permanent war in the middle east, it was common to see guys in DCUs with woodland combat gear. Even recently, you'd find guys who are not front line grunts with old gear with the spiffy new uniforms.
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